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what's up everybody happy freaking

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thursday it's gonna be a great day

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it's been a great week it's been one of

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those weeks where

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you kind of just feel lucky to

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be who you are and where you are and

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i don't really understand why i'm lucky

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to be here

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but i'm not going to ask questions i'm

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just gonna take it

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and um hey that ufo podcast

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thanks for joining us um

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i want to not waste any of your time

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i want to get the smart guy on as soon

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as possible

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so what i'm going to do is give them a

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little introduction

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coming in

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the best chief master at arms the navy

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has ever seen

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man that was pretty good huh oh yeah i'm

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gonna

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look out man what's up no i had to do

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that

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good good you deserve the best so you

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know i had to put that together it's so

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good to see you on here man

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it was so good to see you you doing this

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uh well i gotta say it it started with

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the

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a spark of you know motivation and

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inspiration

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from yourself um you have a way of you

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know

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talking sense into people whether you

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know it or not and

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light and fires under butts and you know

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mine's been streaking hot ever since so

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yeah so i appreciate that it's funny

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because i uh

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the advice i gave you was was really was

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just

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long-winded version of yourself but um

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but you went and did it so

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[Laughter]

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well i needed that you know and

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sometimes

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you know it comes from places that you

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don't really expect

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and you know i just go with it i go with

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the flow

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the rhythm of life nature which i know

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you do too so i think that's why i kind

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of gravitate towards you

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but i do and then the path of least

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resistance just told me that i got to

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get up and plug my computer in because

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it unplugged it two percent so we can

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keep talking but

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just one quick step all right gotcha

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oh man yeah so he's plugging his

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computer in

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that's crazy sean c was my second guest

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ever wow

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that's awesome yeah we're gonna have uh

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i'm i'm glad you put uh

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cahill there otherwise it'd be confusing

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for people

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this is confusing for me right now

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because this is what i've been doing

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every day

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you know what i got an idea

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i think somebody unclogged my computer

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you keep doing that oh i heard it i

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heard an acoustic guitar back there

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you did it's

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it's practically a music studio and a

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recording studio in my living room right

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i wanted to actually mention that um

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so you know i wanted to do the best i

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could as far as

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like looking up all your videos

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everything you have

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because you deserve that respect for an

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um and i ran into a song that i really

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liked of yours which was

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one into many yeah that's a great song

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if you guys don't know he's a songwriter

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he has a youtube channel

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he's got some music on there the one

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that really hit my heart

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it's my style is one in too many check

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it out

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um if you don't mind we can just get

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sure okay sorry about the way yeah no no

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problem it gave me time to think so

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um tell me about your childhood what was

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that like where'd you grow up

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what were your parents like that kind of

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that's a kind of worms um i grew up the

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youngest of uh of eight children

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my father was in world war ii he was a

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waste gunner and radio operator flew 29

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when he came home from war he asked my

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mom to marry him and she was uh she was

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the right side of the tracks he was the

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wrong side of the tracks

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and she said no not unless you go to

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college because then

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my family are educated and um so he did

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what she said and graduated with honors

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and went on to become a successful

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businessman and

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they raised eight children and um but my

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childhood yeah my childhood was mostly

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it was kind of like being an only child

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sibling so um one of the things i think

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remiss if i didn't mention the fact that

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it wasn't a hunky-dory

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happy-go-lucky life um sure it was my

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mother passed away when i was seven on

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christmas eve

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oh man i'm sorry we were a family that

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had all of the same challenges

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many post-world war ii uh families had

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that was kind of what it was like from

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the older brothers and sisters and for

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whatever bad men would have looked like

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that's what got me drinking whiskey and

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smoking cigarettes in my office

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you know i kind of i kind of went down a

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similar path too it was really easy to

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pour with jameson when i was watching

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batman i don't do that

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but um but i uh

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i was i was very fortunate we were very

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fortunate financially

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um we were very well educated

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wow i moved to southern california

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following my girlfriend

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uh after high school to be a rock star

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i went down there yeah took the bass

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crappy little apartment outside of uh on

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the back lot of disneyland right on the

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other side of the fence basically but uh

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over the course of about a year the band

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fell apart um i became a solo act then

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the relationship fell apart

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um i kept bumping into more drugs than i

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um and it really looked to me like

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i was seeing all these people incur

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financial burden to make a record

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and i'd been offered money a couple of

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times to make a record and at the time

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i think we understand it was almost

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impossible to make a record

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independently

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um yeah but i i decided not to and then

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i had a i had an incident with friend um

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where he brought up to dopin in my

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apartment it really made me angry

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and i'd had enough i said this is not

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the life that i want

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i'm gonna make a change and i i

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boom went down to the recruiter retook

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my asvab test and went in the navy

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well that's a crazy story that i can

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relate to

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in many ways but i'll save that for a

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personal conversation

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so the audience can hear about you but

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yeah like almost to a t

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i can have pretty much the same story

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music

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well how how long did you serve or when

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was that in relation to 2004

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were you serving for a while before that

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i enlisted in uh 1995.

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i served for i like to say 20 years and

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a day more

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although i i was a you know it was my

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pleasure to serve

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no one ever forced me to do so whenever

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it came time to re-enlist it was

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it was that was my choice but when it

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was time to go home that was my choice

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but in a in o4 i'd been serving for nine

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i just made chief petty officer a few

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months before the incident

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well yeah that that's a long career in

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the navy than to

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you know put this out there like that

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that's it's quite a risk and

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yeah my grandpa was in the navy he was a

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in world war ii uh they called him

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cookie

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because he was a chef yeah so yep that's

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and my dad got kicked out of

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the navy he went to navy jail you know

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my dad got kicked out of the navy too

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that's funny um really he enlisted

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the day after uh where he went down the

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enlistment office the day after

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they bombed pearl harbor with his father

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my grandfather was in world war one he

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was a balloon

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they turned my grandpa away said you're

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too old go home and organize

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you know a function or something but uh

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my dad went down to pensacola to be a

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midshipman pilot

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but he ended up stealing a a plane and

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him and another guy crashed the plane

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and so he got kicked

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out of the navy and sent home and so my

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dad didn't get to the war for a couple

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of years later he had to uh

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get some years of recommendation he said

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and then they're like well i can't

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believe they let him on a plane again

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like they live in people

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enlisted flight crew but yeah you lost

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privileges buddy

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unless you're scrapped down like a

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mental patient

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and unfortunately that gene was passed

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down through most of the men in my

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family too

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yeah yeah that's another similarity we

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have that's for sure

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my dad got kicked out because he never

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showed up because he was

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always at this girl's house he was like

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15 16 or something at the time so you

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and i may be cousins

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yeah possibly especially like listening

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your videos and stuff oh you know i'll

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get into that

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but um well here we go

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so something that you mentioned actually

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yesterday on max's podcast

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or maybe it wasn't on that maybe it was

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one of your videos

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but you mentioned how this phenomenon

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and these things

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are different for everyone

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seemingly and they're kind of possibly

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connected to one's

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interior emotional state which i can say

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firsthand by experience that's true

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do you think emotions are powerful

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enough to

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or does this prove we are more connected

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i you know for me your second questions

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make sense

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sorry they do yeah yeah your second

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portion of that

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the more connected than we know i think

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is is closer to it um

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you know i i'm more free and open

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talking on podcasts than obviously than

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i would be talking on a larger

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platform because you know larger

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audience doesn't necessarily understand

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all this stuff

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yeah i really know of it a large portion

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of your audience

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is probably are probably meditators or

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probably

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um maybe a little more self-aware

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mindful

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i've watched over the last few years

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because i was lucky enough to already

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have a meditation practice prior to

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deciding ufos were real in 2017

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when when lou walked out

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whether it's my interior state when

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meditating or

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how i respond to my emotions and things

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that i see in the world i've

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i've realized that um i think that we

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receive more information and

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are i think we're open to more signals

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than we're aware

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i think we're affected by each other's

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emotions in a more distant sense

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i think that um we're affected by things

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we see and things that occur in the

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world in a more subtle way than

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we're used to so i do think that

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a lot of what we see happening here is

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based on our

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individual perception as well as our

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collective perception

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but i think most of the data that

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folks haven't seen yet because we're

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focused on nuts and bolts will point to

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to emotionality and intensity

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being at some portion of this spectrum a

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lot of people won't be able to tie that

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immediately to a vehicle and i

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understand that but it's a long road i

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think to get

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get these in the same room yeah well

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make some metaphors all over the place

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yeah no well i think you know to me at

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least i'm latching on to this aspect of

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it

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um but that also brings me to another

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point like

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we're working so hard to get data but

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what kind of data

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is going to be able to prove that your

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emotional connection to what this

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phenomenon is

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right you know i you've

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you've uncovered a little easter egg of

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mine that whenever i say that it's going

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to take all of us to figure this out

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that's what i'm talking about because

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none of us should ever take anyone's

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word on the unknown

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we should be you know we should be

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willing to put it in a little box of

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maybe but wait until

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we have enough of our own data to press

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the believe button

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right um so yeah we're going to have to

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i

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a way that most of us

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are not used to whatsoever no no

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that's that's for sure and i think

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there's many different reasons for that

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but

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usually it has to do with their own

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experience and lack of self-confidence

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so people need to realize that they're

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more powerful and special than they

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think and once they start

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making those moves and doing those

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actions and seeing the reward from it

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well that's just self-sustaining at that

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point yeah

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but um what was your

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you know so if any of this is too

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personal or goes too deep just let me

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know but this is the kind of stuff i

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live for

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so um go for it okay uh what was your

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emotional state at your sighting in

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2004.

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into it it may disappoint some folks but

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um

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during well during the sighting i was i

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was at work so i was locked on

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i'm worried about like life yeah yeah oh

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very narcissistic i was very wrapped up

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in myself

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recently been promoted quite early um to

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a rank that in the enlisted ranks we

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in the navy attaining the rank of chief

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petty officer is a very coveted place

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within the enlisted ranks and once you

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arrive there

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it's um i had an opportunity to go

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officer

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and to you know climb up the chain even

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further but um

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i was convinced by the quality of

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leadership i was surrounded by the

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chief petty officer's mess was where i

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needed to be um

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but i was all about me i was not a

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really good

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in my opinion husband her father at the

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time i wasn't attentive

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enough to my wife and my children i was

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very focused on my career

404
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um very selfish i think in my opinion

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that since that sighting you've become

406
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a lot better of a person

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i think i actually got worse after that

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sighting personally

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um i think i got more selfish

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[Music]

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i believe that magic

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there's a break there after from 04 to

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17 i think it was probably the coldest

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portion of my life

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um because i believed the way that my

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chain of command reacted that this

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wasn't

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yeah a spectacular event but it must

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have been our technology

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and that kind of it kind of popped my

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magic balloon in my little yeah you know

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i held on to a little bit from childhood

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but i got very atheistic um

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and very materialistic and it wasn't

425
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frankly um

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between 2015 and 2017 when i really

427
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started developing my personal

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meditation practice and then began

429
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teaching that was where the really big

430
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changes for me happened

431
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it was after i retired when i realized

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when i took off my uniform i didn't have

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any identity anymore that shawn had

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gone away that's rough yeah that's rough

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um what made you

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take the chance to try something

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different like meditation

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there must have been like a climax or a

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or an ultra

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low point where you're like after this i

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have to do something different you know

442
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i was um i was destroying my family

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from within um

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and i had gotten to a point where i

445
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looked around the room and i thought

446
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everyone else is the a-hole not me

447
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yeah and that's a dangerous thought to

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have

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um i was lucky enough to listen to my

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wife i was in despair i didn't know i

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was i was

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all of my choices that i was looking at

453
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were all horrible choices

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and i didn't know how to pull myself out

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of it and

456
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she played a song for me by a man called

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switchfoot um

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there were two of them actually they

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were strangely not because they're the

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only songs i listened to by them but one

461
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was dare you to move and she was

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literally telling like she literally is

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like listen to this song

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because i'm daring you to get off your

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ass and do something about

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this and then

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in the course of a few weeks listening

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to their music i think a playlist played

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another one of theirs where

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he said uh maybe i'm the partly cloudy

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maybe i'm the chance of rain and as

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silly as it sounds that was one of the

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first times i considered maybe i wasn't

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the victim

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or maybe i was but who cared that wasn't

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getting me anywhere

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you know but it's not that black and

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white all the time either you know

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you could have something to do with it

480
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and other people could too so it makes

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it even more difficult to realize that

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you could be

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the only issue you know oh yeah people

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are bad to you as well

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so how do you cut through that yeah well

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that's what keeps us in the back of the

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cage

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the idea that we that we are the

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that we are the problem we can't face

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that a lot of times so that was the

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that was the teeter point teeter totter

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for me that i had to go over that ledge

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and go you're the problem sean so clean

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up your act okay

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since then dude yeah

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so then it's been surrendered oh my bad

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yeah

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no i think those those stories to me are

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really great because usually they're

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i mean they're like there's a reason i

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always cry at the end of rocky 2.

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you know and that's a very basic

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you know human instinct kind of way of

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looking at it but in the great picture

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that's what we're

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that's what i'm trying to do like life

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is my fight against apollo creed

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you know like i'm trying to yeah

509
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so and when you win um

510
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which is rare because you have to fail

511
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so much first

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but when you do yeah it feels awesome

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um go ahead

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uh when i was teaching meditation i had

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an instagram that um

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you know i try to put out motivational

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phrases and things like that and um

518
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at first i i was i was really motivated

519
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by that and then later i started

520
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realizing wow these are all the same

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cliches that used to piss me off

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they're true and i was like why is it

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different now

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and i was like oh because i'm not angry

525
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anymore i'm like have a nice day

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is an actual good suggestion it's not a

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reason to scowl

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yeah yeah yeah what what the hell did

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you just say to me yeah

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i prefer to say hey just go [\h__\h]

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every time i hear you say the word

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[\h__\h] it

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makes me want to just throw them back at

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you you have so much

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gusto behind that word it's like made

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for you

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i'm a sailor i i swear like swearing in

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my house

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it has been legalized with like my

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teenage daughters are allowed to

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utilize their vocabulary uh as much as

542
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they'd like

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and but i want them to understand those

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words have meaning and power

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so if you're going to save up one save

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it up you know

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that's one cliche that isn't exactly

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true is

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um you know actions speak louder than

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words i mean yes

551
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but we have just seen over the last four

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years

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how damaging words actually are

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yeah so yeah that's yeah

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we we can't let anybody do our thinking

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for us right

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and if if somebody says stuff even me

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that makes you go yeah

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let's let's go no hold on man take a

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breath no i'll literally

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let anyone else

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[Laughter]

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but yeah you're right i mean i mean in

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thinking for yourself and taking that

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step to

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00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:58,400
think for yourself is kind of what it's

567
00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:59,679
all about right because you're going to

568
00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:00,080
make

569
00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:02,960
choices then that may not be the best

570
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:03,520
one

571
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:04,880
but that's the only way you're going to

572
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:06,880
realize that

573
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:09,039
you know you got to connect to your gut

574
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:10,840
or you're going to make a lot of bad

575
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:12,640
decisions

576
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:15,679
yeah um

577
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:17,679
so you know the videos that have coming

578
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:20,400
up uh get back on nuts and bolts stuff i

579
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:21,120
guess

580
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:24,720
um gimbal all that kind of stuff

581
00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:27,919
do you think they're well i know you

582
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,200
said there's a lot of different things

583
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:31,200
going on but do you think these

584
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:33,520
have any relation to the things that

585
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:35,039
people see when they have personal

586
00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:36,000
sightings

587
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:39,120
or personal experiences

588
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:42,320
yeah um for me it doesn't

589
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:46,000
seem like it but well see i talk about a

590
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:46,720
spectrum

591
00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:50,400
and so if if so i've

592
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:53,600
i've seen the the silver orbs here in

593
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:57,200
in the san diego area um the photographs

594
00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:58,240
aren't the best

595
00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:01,440
and the one video that i have i don't

596
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:02,480
find it to be

597
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:05,440
compelling enough for me to publicize it

598
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,320
you know what i mean because

599
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:08,320
then that brings out the trolls and the

600
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:09,360
the armchair

601
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:12,880
theorists and things and my eyewitness

602
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:13,360
account

603
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:17,440
plus the plus the video um

604
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,960
it's good enough evidence if you're

605
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:20,320
showing it to an individual i wouldn't

606
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:22,720
want to publicize it but that said

607
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:24,320
that's not the same

608
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,360
as experiences that have me

609
00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:29,280
warning people about their personal

610
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:31,200
mental state

611
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:34,840
um yeah what i've encountered in

612
00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:40,630
wasn't the same well i don't want to get

613
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:42,080
again i don't want to get too deep into

614
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:43,120
it because right now people

615
00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:44,640
can do reach backs yeah i don't i don't

616
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:46,720
want it i don't want to i get you

617
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,919
you know like if i'm going to be that

618
00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:49,279
guy that's that's kind of keeping it

619
00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:50,880
pragmatic i don't want to go too deep

620
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:53,919
let's just say that in meditation

621
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:56,240
i had an experience that was unlike any

622
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,919
i'd ever had before

623
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,919
and doing it for years i've had some

624
00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:01,679
interesting ones and never had one like

625
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,799
this

626
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:04,480
and it scared the heck out of me but it

627
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:10,630
the what occurred in consciousness was

628
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:12,240
not frightening

629
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:14,159
it was how i perceived it because

630
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:16,320
immediately upon it occurring i went

631
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:19,520
holy crap this is x y and z and this is

632
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:21,520
what this means and then my fear kicked

633
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:23,360
him

634
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,120
if we're to encounter that now i would

635
00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:27,600
probably have a different experience so

636
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:28,640
that's why i tell

637
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:31,279
i know where i was in my personal

638
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:32,960
consciousness at the time so

639
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:35,600
right is that the same as a silver

640
00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:37,760
sphere

641
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:40,480
i don't know and i don't think so those

642
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:40,960
don't

643
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:43,600
but could they have a connection sure

644
00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:45,679
just as much as i don't want to be a

645
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:48,559
self-reflection of sorts

646
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:50,480
there's man there's because yesterday

647
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:51,600
max asked me about

648
00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:54,400
skinwalker ranch and skinwalker ranch

649
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:55,679
brings in what other people call the

650
00:24:59,430 --> 00:24:56,559
paranormal

651
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:59,440
and for some people it's spiritual and

652
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:01,919
i'm comfortable bending that spectrum

653
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:06,240
but not everybody is sure so

654
00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:10,080
are they the same thing sometimes maybe

655
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:13,120
yeah crappy answer i'm sorry yeah

656
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:16,320
well that's what i think sometimes maybe

657
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:19,520
sometimes maybe yeah yeah um yeah

658
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:20,000
sometimes

659
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:23,120
i mean i definitely think

660
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:26,559
that the sighting anyone has a sighting

661
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:28,320
the actual visual part of it

662
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:31,600
is like the least important

663
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:33,760
and you should really be aware of

664
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:36,400
everything else going on in your life

665
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:39,440
you know yeah because i'll tell you

666
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:41,200
about mine sometime

667
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:43,520
i'd be interested to hear your thoughts

668
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:49,990
the now i i mean

669
00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:51,919
it's you're taking a different road with

670
00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:53,279
the core bell stuff

671
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:56,159
i'll i'll say that everybody is pretty

672
00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,360
hyped

673
00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:59,440
well seemingly i'm taking the only road

674
00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:01,039
i can

675
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:02,640
yeah but i wanted to ask you about the

676
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:05,039
radar video and what you recognize on

677
00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:05,520
there

678
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:09,039
and i know yeah so

679
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,559
it's kind of blurry so i'm not sure if

680
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:12,720
you can shed any light on that or not

681
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,480
well i see i i've i've watched it

682
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:18,640
i haven't analyzed it i passed it off to

683
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,400
people who actually sat the scope for

684
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:22,559
hours at a time like i wouldn't want

685
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:24,640
um i wouldn't want gary doing a police

686
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:26,480
investigation for me and i don't think

687
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:27,520
gary would want me

688
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:29,279
gary voorhees wouldn't be analyzing

689
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:31,039
radar data that i only sat a six

690
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:32,880
hour under instruction watch on the

691
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:34,080
scope right

692
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:36,159
but what i did see is i saw real tracks

693
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:37,840
i saw tracks that were appearing and

694
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:39,279
disappearing

695
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,400
um and there's only a

696
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:44,880
limited number of reasons that those

697
00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:47,760
tracks would disappear and reappear

698
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:51,279
uh it has to go under the radar or above

699
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:53,520
yeah yeah it would have to totally

700
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:55,039
shield its em signature

701
00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:58,000
pardon me do we know what the range is

702
00:27:01,990 --> 00:26:59,440
of those

703
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:02,000
not off the top of my head but really

704
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:08,149
the ages so this 51b well i'm not even

705
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:09,039
sure i think that

706
00:27:13,269 --> 00:27:11,520
that was the spy one but that radar

707
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:13,279
projects out quite far

708
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:14,960
but then the aegis system that we

709
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:17,039
utilize for the battle group hooks into

710
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:19,120
satellites and other data

711
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:21,440
to provide a 3d real-time picture of a

712
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:24,240
very large battle space

713
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:28,159
so it's covered yeah gotcha

714
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,440
man that's weird um now

715
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:33,440
the one thing that always struck me is

716
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:34,720
when you mentioned to

717
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:37,760
chris cumo the uh tech

718
00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:45,669
this is a two-part question since 2004

719
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:46,799
have we identified

720
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:49,520
any tech advances on behalf of the

721
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:50,399
phenom

722
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:54,000
or the other question is

723
00:27:59,029 --> 00:27:57,360
is the guesstimate of a hundred to a

724
00:28:02,549 --> 00:27:59,039
thousand years is that determined by

725
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:02,559
any sort of scientific analysis

726
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:05,760
those are good questions um to say that

727
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:07,279
we have determined

728
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:11,039
or or you or or invented new tech based

729
00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:13,679
on the phenomenon would be

730
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:15,679
having someone admit a heck of a lot

731
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:17,919
more than i'm a

732
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:21,279
a voice to admit i believe that we've

733
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:23,679
invented technology based on

734
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:24,960
observations i believe that

735
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:26,320
was part of what the government meant to

736
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:28,080
do go ahead let me rephrase that

737
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,240
uh what i actually meant is have we

738
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,240
noticed the phenomenon the nuts and

739
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:34,480
bolts phenomenon having any advancements

740
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,440
in its own tech

741
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:38,240
over the course of all these years so

742
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:39,600
that okay that's a very different

743
00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:41,039
question um yeah

744
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:43,919
so we've noticed that when we have

745
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:44,640
updated

746
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:47,600
our radars or upgraded them rather that

747
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:49,440
we seem to have had uh what

748
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:51,840
people are commonly called ufo flaps you

749
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:52,880
know

750
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:54,240
major sightings lots of them that

751
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:57,360
correspond to me that's a pretty simple

752
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:00,399
um conclusion that we may have bumped

753
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:03,039
into the edges of their technology

754
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:06,480
um or but the question is why because

755
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,640
that seems to have occurred over the

756
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:10,559
course of the last 70 years

757
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,159
a lot of people will mention that the

758
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:13,679
the form of the

759
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:17,200
craft seems to change um

760
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,880
so the question is is are we dealing

761
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:20,480
with something like jacques valet

762
00:29:25,909 --> 00:29:23,520
might apply a quantum kind of a

763
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:25,919
quantum roulette to this in some ways

764
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:27,520
that perception is always going to be a

765
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:28,720
part of this

766
00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:31,919
right but that doesn't seem it doesn't

767
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:33,039
seem congruent with

768
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,240
with the nuts and bolts edges of tech so

769
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:38,559
it still remains a mystery to me it's

770
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:41,120
wow things we're like if this thing

771
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,679
you know obviously we're speculating

772
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,200
here let me get my fingers in

773
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,440
but if this thing is uh like uh let's

774
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:49,279
say alien or interdimensional or

775
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:49,919
whatever

776
00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:52,640
like it it always uh baffles me how

777
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:54,880
anyone thinks that they would have

778
00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:58,480
any type of understanding of something

779
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:01,520
completely not relatable to us

780
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:03,679
in any way like how do we even know if

781
00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:06,000
they think violently or peacefully or

782
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,039
what if they're just like a flower

783
00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:11,279
you know and they just come and grow and

784
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,039
do biological things or whatever

785
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:15,760
you know well what if what if when you

786
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,399
saw

787
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:18,480
when we see craft we're seeing something

788
00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,760
that is

789
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:21,520
possibly from another iteration in the

790
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:23,120
multiverse you know three three

791
00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:24,720
universes over where

792
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:27,760
their technology is steam punkish you

793
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,399
know

794
00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:30,559
and so it's not your technology you just

795
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:32,080
they just happen to be here poking

796
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:33,440
around and they're like look at these

797
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:35,520
guys there's sleek cars and these

798
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:37,919
fast aircraft and all we've got is

799
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:41,200
anti-gravity derivables you know

800
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:43,679
what's that lamborghini thing that looks

801
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:50,710
yeah yeah that's uh it's

802
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:53,440
you know on the one hand it's so easy to

803
00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:54,720
talk about because

804
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:57,200
it is unknown but on the other hand it's

805
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,000
also so

806
00:31:01,509 --> 00:31:00,240
dangerous to talk about because it is

807
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:01,519
the unknown

808
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:06,080
it's a it's a pickle that's for sure

809
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:13,830
i have to kind of rethink some of my

810
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:16,399
questions based on

811
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:19,600
our conversation a little bit um do you

812
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:22,159
see i think this as far as not to

813
00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:23,760
backtrack but to go back to

814
00:31:30,830 --> 00:31:28,320
the latest leaks um i tend to think that

815
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:30,840
it's almost creating more confusion in

816
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:32,000
inviting

817
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:36,470
yeah i want to be careful because i

818
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:38,000
really respect the hell out of george

819
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:39,039
knapp and jeremy

820
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:41,120
bell yeah and i don't think that's

821
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,720
intent at all they're just working their

822
00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:44,000
asses off

823
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:45,760
no and i want i want to see those are a

824
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:47,360
couple of folks that i want to see like

825
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:48,640
the crowbar of history

826
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:51,120
pry them out of this and and elevate

827
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:52,559
them and put them up there and

828
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:54,080
because i think it's obvious to a lot of

829
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:55,279
us that there is an existing

830
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:56,960
relationship with george

831
00:32:00,070 --> 00:31:58,559
and some folks within the government

832
00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:00,080
that are that are

833
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:02,240
concerned about truth i think it would

834
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:04,320
seem pretty obvious to a lot of us

835
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:06,799
that in some ways george has chosen to

836
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:08,320
knight jeremy as his as

837
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:12,320
heir and yeah but we've got a lot more

838
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:13,600
firepower we can

839
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:18,320
we can give them um so and i don't again

840
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,760
i'm not one of those people that teaches

841
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:21,440
grandma to suck eggs she knows what

842
00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:22,320
she's doing

843
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,679
um but at the same time i feel like

844
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:27,760
oh sorry it's it's the old one from the

845
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:33,669
this is how you second graham i just

846
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:36,559
thought of that and i was like

847
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:42,789
but i i just maybe i'm wrong here but i

848
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:44,559
feel like we could make a larger impact

849
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:45,679
and if these

850
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:48,960
i'm also concerned that

851
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:50,960
i don't know where these are coming from

852
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,039
when peop just like when people say

853
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,679
what they expect from the uaptf those

854
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,440
are their expectations a lot of folks

855
00:33:02,630 --> 00:32:59,519
haven't read what the tasking was

856
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:02,640
yeah so i read it for sure did these

857
00:33:06,389 --> 00:33:05,200
videos come from the uae ptf or did they

858
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:06,399
come from the element within the

859
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:07,840
government that wants this to go

860
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:10,080
south and look stupid and so they're

861
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:11,760
giving us

862
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:13,679
other tech that is going to muddy the

863
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:15,120
water i don't know and that's why i'm

864
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:17,120
suspicious i'm not suspicious of jeremy

865
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,559
and george

866
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:20,320
i'm suspicious of the chain of custody

867
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:21,919
of the document until we have that

868
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:24,399
that's all right well yeah and i mean

869
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:25,440
there's reasons

870
00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:27,840
that people would perceive it that way

871
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,039
things getting confirmed

872
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:31,440
almost immediately there's a gap in

873
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:32,720
between the viper team

874
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:36,399
and how they got the stuff so yeah

875
00:33:40,149 --> 00:33:38,000
well there's a big question as to how

876
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:40,159
the hell classified data got out of that

877
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:41,600
combat information center

878
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:43,600
because whoever took that video was

879
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:45,519
violating opsec and then whoever

880
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:48,080
disseminated that video was violating

881
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:49,600
operational security

882
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:52,000
yeah see that's where there's um

883
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:52,960
differences

884
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:56,399
because um the person who put the video

885
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,640
up

886
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:58,240
on the internet said that it was taken

887
00:34:01,590 --> 00:34:00,399
with permission

888
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:01,600
i don't know what that means that

889
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:06,240
permission needs to exist in writing

890
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,159
enough said so maybe we need to foia

891
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:10,159
that entire process and find out what

892
00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:11,280
happened there

893
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:13,280
but yeah if they're a little busy right

894
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:14,560
now

895
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,550
chris mellon actually mentioned

896
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:22,320
something really interesting on cnn when

897
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:23,839
you were with them i was wondering what

898
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:25,200
your take was

899
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:27,760
um and it's just furthering upon the

900
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:29,440
maybe they got here first

901
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:32,720
um and then i think chris cumos asks the

902
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:34,639
old cliche why now

903
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:37,679
um and chris mellon said

904
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:40,270
well do you talk to zoo animals

905
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:41,919
[Laughter]

906
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:43,520
you know i thought that was really great

907
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:49,829
it seems like the way they toy with us

908
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:53,200
and they show themselves when they want

909
00:35:05,750 --> 00:34:56,720
and let you believe almost what you want

910
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,630
oh absolutely um because as i said to

911
00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:10,560
max yesterday

912
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:14,240
based on the technology i expect them to

913
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,720
be the ones to say hello first

914
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:18,720
now i i get people that say oh well they

915
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:20,480
flash lights at us well we only use

916
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,119
those to keep

917
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:23,280
other people away from us we don't flash

918
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,800
navigational lights on our aircraft

919
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:26,640
going come on over and get closer

920
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:28,400
let's fly real close we don't that's not

921
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:29,760
what that means it means get the hell

922
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:30,720
away from me

923
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:33,280
yeah um and since these are energetic

924
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,839
craft

925
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:35,359
hopefully that's what they mean too i

926
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:36,880
think a lot of the lights people see

927
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:39,920
are expressions of the energy that the

928
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:41,200
craft is using

929
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:44,000
not a means of communication per se i

930
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:45,440
think she's taking

931
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:47,200
movies and applying what you've seen in

932
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:49,520
movies to it but

933
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:51,359
it doesn't mean it's not possible it

934
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:52,640
doesn't mean that it's not what's

935
00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:53,200
happening

936
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:56,240
sometimes but what i saw the lips that i

937
00:35:57,990 --> 00:35:57,760
saw in the sky that night didn't seem

938
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:58,000
like

939
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:59,440
they were communicating with me they

940
00:36:01,750 --> 00:36:00,480
seemed like they were getting the heck

941
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:01,760
out of dodge

942
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,359
well that reminds me of what lou said

943
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:05,200
where um he said the

944
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:08,880
lights may actually be some form of uh

945
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:12,000
distortion you know absolutely there's

946
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:14,960
so many possibilities so i think that a

947
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:17,119
lot of people put the onus on us

948
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:18,720
you know they're like i haven't why i

949
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:20,400
don't know what they expect i want to

950
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,000
really tell people like imagine you're

951
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:24,400
in your car right now and you're driving

952
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:27,520
and you see a ufo and i say to you well

953
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:30,960
did you try to communicate with them

954
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:33,839
what like what their number like like

955
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:34,720
what means

956
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:36,400
communication do you intend to use

957
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:40,160
rolling down the window and going hey

958
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,760
yeah but like are you going to yell at

959
00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:43,440
your radio receiver

960
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:45,200
right and go well i figure they have the

961
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:46,800
tech to hear me i

962
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:49,359
that f teen has got communications with

963
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:51,119
the battle group

964
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:53,040
it's like you might want to keep talking

965
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:54,640
hello yeah

966
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:57,760
i mean he can't yeah it's it's a

967
00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:59,440
i don't want to make fun of anybody but

968
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:01,680
there's a lot to it it's not that simple

969
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:03,440
yeah you know he was it's not like he

970
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:04,960
was going to waggle his

971
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:07,040
his wings and suddenly you know we were

972
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:08,720
gonna join the federation

973
00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:12,079
so we gotta

974
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:13,839
understand the hammer dance back maybe

975
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:15,280
that'll get us in

976
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:18,079
i understand people's frustrations like

977
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:19,920
i wanna know if dave fraver for a minute

978
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:21,680
in his head went

979
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:23,680
can you hear me you know i would like to

980
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:25,200
know if he gave it a try

981
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:26,800
he probably did i hope he did yeah i

982
00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:28,640
hope so i i yeah i hope so

983
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:31,119
i actually physically talked to one that

984
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:31,680
i saw

985
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:34,640
on camera and i said hey buddy come over

986
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:35,599
come over here

987
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:43,109
okay well let's get real for a second

988
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:45,359
the ones that you can

989
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:48,720
desert and talk to like that sure seem

990
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:50,000
like little beasties more

991
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:52,400
than they seem like nuts and bolts craft

992
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:55,280
that i call those i call

993
00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:58,720
man i call the little orbs beasties

994
00:38:02,710 --> 00:37:59,520
because i

995
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,720
i can't figure them out if yeah

996
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:04,640
yeah that's what i have i'll send you my

997
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:05,920
video

998
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:08,960
yeah yeah it's weird i you know

999
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:13,119
to be honest i've i felt like um

1000
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:15,680
there was a sense of grumpiness to one

1001
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:16,320
of them

1002
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:18,000
like it was grumpy like it didn't want

1003
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:19,280
to be there or something like it was

1004
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:20,960
like what are we doing here oh i kind of

1005
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,280
think

1006
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:23,520
this is stupid i don't know but that's

1007
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:24,720
all you know that could all be

1008
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:29,599
just my perception of course um

1009
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:31,359
let's see i think like when that when

1010
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:33,040
those weird perceptions come

1011
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:36,320
in that that's

1012
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:38,560
yeah i don't as i say i'm not a gambling

1013
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:40,240
man i wouldn't bet a ham sandwich on any

1014
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:40,880
of them

1015
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:48,390
let me ask you this um do we do you know

1016
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:48,800
of

1017
00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:56,550
doing anything kinetic other than

1018
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:03,430
well uh there are a very few and i want

1019
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:04,480
to be careful here because a lot of

1020
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:05,520
people get mad when you bring up the

1021
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:07,040
negative aspects of it because a lot of

1022
00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:08,720
people have a lot of blood

1023
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:11,839
yeah yeah but there have been

1024
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:14,320
reports and there has been evidence of

1025
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:15,040
um

1026
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:17,839
of negative kinetic well kinetic hold on

1027
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:19,280
that's a very specific word

1028
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,040
it is um the only

1029
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:25,200
kinetic issues that i've heard about

1030
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:26,400
seem to be

1031
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:28,640
navigational or malfunctioning problems

1032
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:29,680
um there were some

1033
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:32,320
there was i believe it was in it i can't

1034
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:33,119
wear

1035
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:41,829
or was it south africa or

1036
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:44,320
south america but they had they had one

1037
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:45,440
where it crashed through it was in

1038
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:47,280
africa they crashed through this village

1039
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,880
crashed through it the the orbs crashed

1040
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:50,560
through a bunch of walls

1041
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:52,240
in the village and created fires and

1042
00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:54,079
things like that and kind of like

1043
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:56,720
almost like a drunk you know in a in a

1044
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:58,000
bazaar in their car

1045
00:40:01,430 --> 00:39:59,760
just backing up and going forward and

1046
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:01,440
then

1047
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:04,160
um there have been cases like that um

1048
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:05,599
there have been directed energy

1049
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:08,160
cases as well but it's um yeah so yeah

1050
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:09,280
there are

1051
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:12,800
there's a physicality like emp

1052
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:15,119
attacks always for for whatever reason i

1053
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:16,720
think of those things

1054
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,720
like and if there was some sort of weird

1055
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:20,640
like attacks or something

1056
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:21,920
you know what are the chances it would

1057
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:24,160
be something obvious in that

1058
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:27,280
psychological or like a emp or whatever

1059
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:30,640
you know sure sure but

1060
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:32,240
um yeah the manipulation of the

1061
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:34,000
electromagnetic spectrum

1062
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:38,160
seems to be key in this yeah i don't

1063
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:38,560
know

1064
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:40,640
look at those people in cuba they're

1065
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:42,880
getting zapped yeah

1066
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:44,720
well yeah but again the question is by

1067
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:46,240
whom yeah

1068
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:48,880
well you know we don't have answers to

1069
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:50,240
much

1070
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:53,359
but we keep trying it's a it's a good

1071
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:54,400
battle to fight

1072
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:56,319
um are you overtime or do you have more

1073
00:41:02,630 --> 00:40:57,440
time

1074
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:02,640
do not disturb and airplane mode and the

1075
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,160
only person that can ring through keeps

1076
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:06,079
calling me

1077
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,079
if you need to take it you know no it's

1078
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:10,000
okay i got a guitar i can

1079
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:18,150
dude that's uh we got through a lot of

1080
00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:21,359
my questions already um

1081
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:24,720
i would say i'll

1082
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:28,560
get to off the script stuff sure

1083
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,800
um it's the first time i've been smiling

1084
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:32,079
this big all week i mean

1085
00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:33,680
max and i had fun yesterday but we were

1086
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:35,119
serious yeah

1087
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:38,240
i don't know it's like you have to

1088
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:41,280
at least to me um especially with

1089
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:43,200
something so heavy like this if you just

1090
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:45,119
go all serious all the time you're gonna

1091
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:46,079
snap

1092
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:49,920
you know oh yeah man i'm i feel for lou

1093
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:50,560
now

1094
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,319
i didn't understand the tempo that he

1095
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:54,640
was um that he was holding up for a long

1096
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:03,170
angry what is happening to him

1097
00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:11,670
[Music]

1098
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:13,109
i'll admit when i first started getting

1099
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:15,119
into this stuff which was you know i've

1100
00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:16,240
always paid attention

1101
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:19,839
i guess um especially since 2017 but

1102
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:22,079
when i first started actually like

1103
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:23,839
digging a little more because i'm the

1104
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,839
type to figure out stuff on my own i'm a

1105
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:27,040
self-starter so

1106
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,880
i look people up i look what they did i

1107
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:30,480
do my own stuff and

1108
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,720
way it versus you know this word and

1109
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:33,920
that word

1110
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:36,960
um and it

1111
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:40,160
like it seems so too good to be true

1112
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,839
that somebody would really be doing that

1113
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:43,440
that i think my perception just

1114
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:45,440
naturally went to he's trying to

1115
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:48,480
screw us somehow you know because you i

1116
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:48,880
live

1117
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:50,560
my life with that fear because of

1118
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,640
various experiences i've been through

1119
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:54,480
in real life you know even with best

1120
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:55,760
friends or whatever

1121
00:43:02,550 --> 00:42:58,960
but the more you see the guy work and

1122
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:02,560
talk um if you don't

1123
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:06,560
if you can't smell the sincerity

1124
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:10,079
um i don't think you really

1125
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,200
know people yeah you know there there's

1126
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,599
a lot of fear rap stiffness for folk man

1127
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:17,599
i was saying that you said about

1128
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,119
trusting

1129
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:21,359
you know yeah well because that's what's

1130
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:22,240
used against us

1131
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:25,280
everything that has every every bit of

1132
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:26,800
sovereign humanity that we all

1133
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:28,880
deserve you know that that kind of like

1134
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:30,560
seed that we should all have within us

1135
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:31,920
to have a life

1136
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:35,440
um it's co-opted by our society to an

1137
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:36,720
extent i don't want to sound like this

1138
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,839
militant hippie

1139
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:39,359
but all of us should have a little bit

1140
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:41,599
more choice and resource

1141
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,280
and other things at our disposal to to

1142
00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:47,920
choose the course of our life um no i

1143
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:49,119
hear you when i met lou

1144
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:50,560
i was really worried he was another

1145
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:53,119
bullshitter and i took

1146
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:54,640
man i spent nine months trying to prove

1147
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:56,319
that that was the case that sounds

1148
00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:59,359
like i was i was super suspicious when i

1149
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,160
met him but

1150
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:02,400
also there's folks that you meet you

1151
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:03,680
look in their eyes and you shake their

1152
00:44:08,710 --> 00:44:05,680
hands and you go that dude's one of me

1153
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:08,720
yep and i don't know why but i'll go to

1154
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:10,640
the mattresses for that cat and it's

1155
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:11,920
that's where we've been ever since and

1156
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,000
he's proven himself to me

1157
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:16,240
um and i've proven myself to him i hope

1158
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,599
but uh

1159
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:20,400
that's a loyal dude you know sean you

1160
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:20,800
are

1161
00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:24,160
an amazing person and one of the reasons

1162
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:26,000
i'm even here doing this if i didn't

1163
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:27,920
find people like yourself

1164
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:30,480
involved in what's happening right now i

1165
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:31,200
wouldn't

1166
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:34,000
think i had a place so we need more

1167
00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:35,440
folks like us well i'm glad you're here

1168
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,319
man

1169
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:38,880
i'm i'm glad you're here and that you

1170
00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:40,560
know i wound up being here

1171
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:42,560
and you know being able to meet you and

1172
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:43,920
stuff and i really hope i can

1173
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:46,640
uh pick your brain more at some point

1174
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:47,040
perhaps

1175
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:50,079
maybe off camera about the other stuff

1176
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,589
do you think there's any connection to

1177
00:45:03,430 --> 00:44:59,760
this stuff and any of the

1178
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:03,440
like earthquakes

1179
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:06,480
or anything like that or

1180
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:09,599
what's up with catalina you know greg

1181
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:11,359
cameron had somebody remote view

1182
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:14,480
that place and talk to aliens

1183
00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:17,280
so what do you think is the case there

1184
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:18,240
because it's

1185
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:21,520
awful awful coincidental that there's

1186
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:22,000
all this

1187
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:25,119
commotion there it's a very

1188
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,720
um if you're willing to paint a broad

1189
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:28,560
picture there seems to be a lot of

1190
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:30,240
interesting things that coincide with

1191
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:31,440
each other

1192
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:35,119
um if you're paying attention to where

1193
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:35,520
the

1194
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:39,119
area

1195
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:42,240
uh we're coming out of a basically a

1196
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:43,920
interstellar cloud that we've been in

1197
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:44,400
for

1198
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:46,880
a very very long time there's a we're

1199
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:47,839
encountering a different

1200
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:51,520
um energy variant the sun is acting a

1201
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:52,880
little bit differently

1202
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:57,040
the sun's the solar cycle affects

1203
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,599
our geomagnetic

1204
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:04,079
um situation here on earth which in turn

1205
00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:05,359
affects

1206
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:08,319
our um tectonic activity and our

1207
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,839
earthquakes

1208
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,440
all of those things are tied to each of

1209
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:13,599
our hearts

1210
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:15,359
a lot of people don't consider the fact

1211
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:17,040
that your heart is

1212
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:18,800
basically connected to the rhythm of the

1213
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:21,200
earth the rhythm of the sun

1214
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:22,640
and that is connected to the rhythm of

1215
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,040
the local area and the galaxy

1216
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,440
as humans we don't think of ourselves

1217
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,280
spread out across a spectrum like that

1218
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:30,880
we just think of ourselves as monkeys

1219
00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,280
running around on this this ball of dirt

1220
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,359
but we're a part of the process we're

1221
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:37,520
not outside the process

1222
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:41,520
so so hard for people to

1223
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,240
break out of their what's in front of

1224
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:46,079
them every day the routines i gotta get

1225
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:48,400
groceries i gotta pick up my kid

1226
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,880
i gotta get this report in because i

1227
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:52,480
think my boss is pissed at me

1228
00:46:56,790 --> 00:46:54,880
or you know it's so hard for people to

1229
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:56,800
get out of that

1230
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:01,040
forced routine that is unnatural

1231
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,800
you catch a lot of people that are they

1232
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:06,160
you get you get like two sides of the

1233
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:08,240
coin i have no problem using a binary

1234
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:10,000
way to describe our day-to-day

1235
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:11,920
like you've got folks that that dive

1236
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:13,280
inward

1237
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:17,040
and they then start having trouble

1238
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:18,640
carrying water and chopping wood every

1239
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:21,040
day and then you've got people that

1240
00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:22,559
they don't go yeah me too they don't go

1241
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,559
inward and you got piles of laundry that

1242
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:26,400
are

1243
00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:27,839
in their moccasins they're not my wife's

1244
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:30,559
fault yeah no it's but

1245
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:31,839
but the people chopping wood and

1246
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:33,440
carrying water every day doing a good

1247
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:34,079
job

1248
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,079
don't go as inward so we all need each

1249
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:38,400
other um yeah so

1250
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:41,440
it's it's heavy man there's a ying and a

1251
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:41,839
yang

1252
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:45,280
yep and well i think like

1253
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,359
the hard part about that is the nuts and

1254
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:49,359
bolts uh type of people won't

1255
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:51,280
necessarily give a damn to even think

1256
00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:53,839
about needing

1257
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:57,040
other people yeah

1258
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,720
it takes and in a lot of cases those are

1259
00:48:02,309 --> 00:48:00,400
the folks that need a little bit more

1260
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:02,319
compassion and vulnerability from us

1261
00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:03,520
because they they still

1262
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:05,200
come out of the cave a little bit you

1263
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:06,720
know yeah

1264
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:10,400
empathy i think plays or it should play

1265
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:10,640
an

1266
00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:19,040
thought of

1267
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:21,359
this person has a life and i have no

1268
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:23,040
idea what they're going through

1269
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:26,400
right now or what makes them tick

1270
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:28,240
i mean if everyone could just put that

1271
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:30,160
thought before what they say

1272
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:36,230
everything would go a lot better yeah

1273
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:37,760
you know i see that as compassion

1274
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,599
because a lot of people have empathy but

1275
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:40,880
they only have enough

1276
00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:43,920
to then judge the person and say i can

1277
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:45,520
walk in your shoes but now i think

1278
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,880
you're an a-hole for making those

1279
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,640
choices and i need to make myself feel

1280
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:50,640
better so i'm going to step back

1281
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:53,760
um compassion says yeah i've been

1282
00:48:57,030 --> 00:48:56,400
i've been in the same position and i'm

1283
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:57,040
not

1284
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:00,880
going to judge you

1285
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:02,480
i think that's that's the extra step we

1286
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:05,119
need to oh my god that blew my mind

1287
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:06,960
i'm not going to judge me anymore so i'm

1288
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:09,520
not going to judge you that's

1289
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:13,200
that's the epitome of where

1290
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:16,720
i want to get to is not judging myself

1291
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:17,839
anymore

1292
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:19,920
you know i don't mean to to pontificate

1293
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:21,280
but you know what the price to that

1294
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:23,040
is the price is is you can't make those

1295
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,720
shitty decisions anymore

1296
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:26,640
you can't get yourself those excuses to

1297
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:28,319
say i'm gonna go do this crappy thing

1298
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:30,160
and then forgive myself later

1299
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:31,599
you say i'm going to forgive myself

1300
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,880
ahead of time and then i'm going to take

1301
00:49:34,870 --> 00:49:34,240
the right steps because i have the

1302
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:34,880
courage

1303
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:38,720
of that forgiveness in myself yeah

1304
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:42,000
well but brother um

1305
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:43,440
you got a lot of irons in the fire what

1306
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:52,069
the last few days have seen uh me and my

1307
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:53,440
colleagues be able to

1308
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:55,839
put a safety net in place that we think

1309
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,119
is going to be able to look out for lou

1310
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,960
you're not the only one and our our

1311
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:02,160
friends and uh

1312
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:05,040
colleagues and and i dare say fans i'm

1313
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:05,599
not

1314
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:08,640
a fan of the word fans but um i dare say

1315
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,359
that

1316
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:11,040
they feel as strongly as we do about

1317
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:14,319
wanting to look out for our dude

1318
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:15,760
i feel like we've been able to do that

1319
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:17,119
recently so i look forward to sharing

1320
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:18,400
that with everybody i know that my

1321
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:20,559
colleagues do

1322
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:24,400
awesome we've got

1323
00:50:31,109 --> 00:50:28,000
major moves happening um in washington

1324
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:31,119
we've got a lot of buy-in from

1325
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:33,040
the levels of society that inform the

1326
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:34,800
rest of us on a daily basis that are

1327
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:36,160
interested in this

1328
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:37,920
everybody says they love you sorry i

1329
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:39,200
gotta throw that in there

1330
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:42,160
oh signals well you tell dan i love him

1331
00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:42,880
i mean

1332
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:46,240
dan i love you man you know

1333
00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:48,319
dan dan zappostrom is a very close good

1334
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:50,079
friend of mine just so you guys know i

1335
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:51,760
know you guys are throwing out comments

1336
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:52,400
i'm a

1337
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:54,559
lone ranger over here i'm doing the best

1338
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:55,440
i can

1339
00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:57,920
uh but it's gonna be more important to

1340
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:59,599
me always to be engaged in the

1341
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:00,559
conversation

1342
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,400
with the person i have on and if i do

1343
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:06,240
you know if i'm able to multitask i'll

1344
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:08,800
bring in a comment

1345
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:11,839
yeah go ahead sorry oh that kind of got

1346
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:12,960
me just gonna

1347
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:14,960
see a friend show up in the chat um

1348
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:16,480
somebody somebody told me yesterday and

1349
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:17,839
then custom comments somewhere they're

1350
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:19,119
like don't pay attention to that you

1351
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:20,079
should be

1352
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:23,839
be being interviewed

1353
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:27,359
no see i think the like the whole like

1354
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:29,200
um

1355
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:35,510
not the route to go if you really want

1356
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:36,800
to learn about somebody

1357
00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:38,000
i mean if you want to learn about

1358
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:41,200
somebody like talk to them

1359
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:44,240
you know i agree yeah hey tell me

1360
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:47,440
tell me about your song

1361
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:49,760
the one the connections in the chemistry

1362
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:51,440
i don't know if i never get the titles

1363
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:52,800
of any songs right and i never have

1364
00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:53,839
since i got since i

1365
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:56,559
started listening to the cds so well uh

1366
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:58,079
well you got that one red

1367
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:01,040
okay good oh that dude is actually the

1368
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:02,720
first time

1369
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,079
oh really yeah wow i um i was sitting on

1370
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:07,839
the floor in in what i now call

1371
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:09,359
my room at his place although it's not

1372
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:10,960
my room um

1373
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:13,440
but i was getting ready to meditate and

1374
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,720
i was going through my uh

1375
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:16,640
my i think my tweets or going through my

1376
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:18,079
feed or something and i

1377
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:19,440
can't remember if you sent it to me or

1378
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:21,520
if you had posted it i said to you i

1379
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:22,079
said

1380
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:25,040
sean if anyone's gonna understand what i

1381
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:26,160
made

1382
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:28,400
i know i don't know you yet but it's

1383
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:30,640
gonna be you

1384
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:34,240
i just had a feeling um

1385
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:35,920
sure [\h__\h] i didn't like that i made

1386
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:37,440
everybody listen to that man

1387
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:39,520
everybody that was out there on that on

1388
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:40,480
that shoot with us

1389
00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:42,720
and and i was like y'all need to shout

1390
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:44,800
like i like everybody was like kind of

1391
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:46,160
what is he doing i was like you need to

1392
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:48,240
hear this song yeah so

1393
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:51,200
it's hard for me to remember a lot of

1394
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:52,960
the lyrics because i do

1395
00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:56,400
write a lot of stuff um

1396
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,160
as it's like kind of at this point it's

1397
00:53:01,910 --> 00:53:00,160
just therapy it's automatic like the

1398
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:01,920
song i made for loot took like

1399
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:04,800
20 minutes you know yeah i know exactly

1400
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:05,920
what you mean man

1401
00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:08,559
yeah but sometimes i never play it again

1402
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:09,040
yeah

1403
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:11,359
and when you force it it's just like you

1404
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:12,640
gotta realize like

1405
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:14,960
this isn't going to be any good you know

1406
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:16,160
it's not forcing it

1407
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:17,599
but no the song connections and the

1408
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:19,200
chemistry

1409
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:22,400
was if i recall it's really about

1410
00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:24,960
us being connected to each other and

1411
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:25,599
possibly

1412
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:28,480
this phenomenon all at the same time and

1413
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:30,720
that we can communicate

1414
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:34,400
on basically gravitational waves that go

1415
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:37,920
the length of the entire universe and

1416
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:40,319
you know what we do like going back to

1417
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:42,800
what you said earlier affects

1418
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:45,839
each other and sometimes at a very

1419
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:48,400
subtle level level at first but it's the

1420
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:49,599
culmination

1421
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:52,800
of that energy that really has an effect

1422
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:55,760
i'm a big fan of saying what if what if

1423
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:56,800
your thoughts

1424
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:59,040
could heal someone what if your interior

1425
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:01,440
monologue changed the course of history

1426
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:03,520
what if your attitude was as infectious

1427
00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:05,200
as we like to say it is on hallmark

1428
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:06,160
cards

1429
00:54:10,870 --> 00:54:09,440
um it's worth it it is

1430
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:10,880
it's worth the chance it's worth the

1431
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:13,040
possible hurt

1432
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:16,160
of being let down to realize just what

1433
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:16,640
and

1434
00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:18,640
see each of us we're all waiting for

1435
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:20,559
anyone to come lead us out of the cave

1436
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,079
just one person

1437
00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:24,480
and we don't realize that that when we

1438
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:25,599
do that

1439
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:28,079
it has an exponential effect you know

1440
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:29,520
we're all waiting for our payment we're

1441
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:31,040
like when i get paid first then i'll be

1442
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:32,640
heartfelt and kind and loving

1443
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:35,520
and that's not how it works that's so

1444
00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:36,799
interesting

1445
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:38,799
that's kind of how i looked at like my

1446
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:40,880
whole music or here almost

1447
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,880
like once i get paid for this then i'll

1448
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:44,480
stop thinking everyone else involved

1449
00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:49,109
you know but you know at that point

1450
00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:51,200
though i mean it took a long time for me

1451
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:52,000
to realize that

1452
00:54:56,470 --> 00:54:55,599
but um you know the whole reason i think

1453
00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:56,480
i didn't even get

1454
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:58,640
any farther with the music is because

1455
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:00,160
the intentions were

1456
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:03,760
self-serving

1457
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,760
and they weren't which is okay to a

1458
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:07,440
certain extent as far as like mental

1459
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:09,119
therapy and stuff but

1460
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,480
you know it wasn't about expression on a

1461
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:14,160
stage and touching people

1462
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:15,599
you know it was always like what can i

1463
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:17,040
do next what's the bigger show what's

1464
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:18,960
the bigger band i can play with you know

1465
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:20,559
who can i call now all that kind of

1466
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:22,720
stuff and it completely

1467
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:24,400
took me away from why i did it to begin

1468
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,400
with which is

1469
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:28,160
therapy if you would have seen my like

1470
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:29,440
first open mic

1471
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:31,520
i did it like 17 where i'm writing my

1472
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:33,680
own stuff playing one chord for an

1473
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:36,480
hour like cry singing driving everybody

1474
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:37,440
out of the bar

1475
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:40,720
like you know but

1476
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,280
um i don't know where i was going with

1477
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:45,520
that but

1478
00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:47,440
i know how you feel man there's an

1479
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:48,640
energy to it

1480
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:51,440
it needs to be treated properly yeah and

1481
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:52,960
it's almost like i went through all that

1482
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:53,920
crap

1483
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:57,680
to get a different view on life the

1484
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:59,520
correct one which is

1485
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:01,200
you know always been nagging at me my

1486
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:02,720
whole life that i've never fully

1487
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,960
released which is just helping people

1488
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:06,960
being there for people my mom raised me

1489
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:08,880
that way with integrity

1490
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:11,839
and to be there for people yeah and you

1491
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:12,319
know

1492
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:14,960
so that's what i'm trying to do being a

1493
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:16,000
helper is the thing that

1494
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:19,040
makes me feel least selfish

1495
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:21,680
it makes me forget that i need anything

1496
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:22,880
um

1497
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:24,240
and then when i'm done helping i

1498
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:25,920
realized that was what i needed i needed

1499
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:27,040
to be

1500
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,119
of service i enjoy

1501
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:33,200
i enjoy being part of the solution i

1502
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:34,559
don't need to be the smartest guy in the

1503
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:36,160
room but i want to help

1504
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:40,079
yeah that that's all i ever want to do

1505
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,960
is like desperately help sometimes to

1506
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:44,880
the point where

1507
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,160
you know maybe you've had this

1508
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:48,720
experience but you almost tried so hard

1509
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:49,520
to help

1510
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:52,880
that you were shunned yes

1511
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:55,040
and then it's the taking the shunning so

1512
00:56:57,910 --> 00:56:56,000
personally

1513
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:57,920
that is what ruins the the helpers

1514
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:59,119
because

1515
00:57:03,190 --> 00:57:01,520
it's it's that cry for help it's i'll

1516
00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:03,200
put in this much effort and surely they

1517
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:04,799
will see my worth

1518
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:06,880
and they can't they're broken that's why

1519
00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:08,400
and they're not broken for good but they

1520
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:09,200
need your help

1521
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:12,240
and and so it's that self-judgment that

1522
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:13,760
self-forgiveness

1523
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:15,440
that's the last piece that makes it so

1524
00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:17,040
there is no clue tonight

1525
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:19,040
you know you once you you've made that

1526
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:20,559
deal with yourself that

1527
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:21,920
i'm not the i'm not going to be the

1528
00:57:24,870 --> 00:57:23,599
[\h__\h] anymore and when i am

1529
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:24,880
i'm going to say i'm sorry and i'm going

1530
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:26,480
to stop that behavior that's the best

1531
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:27,359
deal with it

1532
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:30,640
right away instead of pacifying it yeah

1533
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:32,480
because it's so easy to do and then it

1534
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:33,839
becomes routine

1535
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:35,280
well our government's going through that

1536
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:37,359
right now yeah i don't want to demonize

1537
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:38,079
them but the deal

1538
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:39,599
is the a-hole right now and they need to

1539
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:41,200
they need to step up and pull

1540
00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:43,520
their big boy pants on and fix this the

1541
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:45,280
worst part about this to me

1542
00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:48,079
is if you just look at it like every

1543
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:48,559
chance

1544
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:50,960
lou has to throw the government under

1545
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:51,680
the bus

1546
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:54,559
he never does it he said true i i

1547
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:55,760
understand but you can't treat the

1548
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:57,680
government on their past actions or new

1549
00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:59,440
people in charge there's new stuff give

1550
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:00,559
them a chance

1551
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:03,760
and every time like they keep

1552
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:06,000
forcing him to change that tune

1553
00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:06,960
basically

1554
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:09,520
you know to we talk about it all the

1555
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:10,240
time that

1556
00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:12,960
we we refuse to step off the high road

1557
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:14,559
we're not gonna assume anybody else

1558
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:15,920
we're not here to blame you we don't

1559
00:58:19,589 --> 00:58:16,640
care how

1560
00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:19,599
bad you are that speaks for itself we're

1561
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:20,960
gonna let our reputations

1562
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:23,200
our data and our words speak for

1563
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:24,160
themselves

1564
00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:27,040
right so we don't need to go fighting

1565
00:58:32,230 --> 00:58:28,559
with these folks

1566
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:32,240
no i think that's beautiful um because

1567
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:34,240
it gets to a point where well they're

1568
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:36,960
just wanting you to play at their level

1569
00:58:41,829 --> 00:58:39,359
you know in their home court and i'm

1570
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:41,839
sorry but i ain't going

1571
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,079
you know i play over here yep you can

1572
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:46,240
come here if you want

1573
00:58:50,549 --> 00:58:48,640
it's the governmental equivalent of you

1574
00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:50,559
you cursing at the atm t

1575
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,920
operator and them going well i don't

1576
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:53,680
have to listen to you anymore now and

1577
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:54,960
they get to hang up on you

1578
00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:58,160
yeah completely um

1579
00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:00,400
let me ask you this uh we're at 58

1580
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:01,920
minutes i never ask you how much time

1581
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:04,160
but i'm assuming like an hour

1582
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:07,680
but um what i wanted to ask you is

1583
00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:12,079
if you had any advice

1584
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:14,000
that you think would be the most

1585
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:15,760
impactful for

1586
00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:18,799
ufo twitter everyone involved not one

1587
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:20,720
side or the other side or whatever

1588
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:26,630
take some time to sit down and consider

1589
00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:28,559
what you want out of this we're all

1590
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:30,640
we're all part of this hashtag whatever

1591
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,240
that means in our modern society

1592
00:59:36,309 --> 00:59:34,240
to us but we've become we've coalesced

1593
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:36,319
as a group that looks out for each other

1594
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:38,640
i don't know how big we are um i don't

1595
00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:39,520
know how far we

1596
00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:41,839
we extend or what kind of a constituency

1597
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:43,119
we're going to be able to bring to bear

1598
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:44,480
against this

1599
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:46,000
but you don't need to lose yourself in

1600
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:47,839
this um

1601
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:49,359
and you don't need to get scared or

1602
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:51,200
confused or anything else so i would say

1603
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:52,000
at some point

1604
00:59:55,589 --> 00:59:53,520
have a seat in your living room when

1605
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:55,599
it's quiet and go what do i want out of

1606
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:56,480
this

1607
01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:58,480
and is that a conceivable thing that i

1608
01:00:02,309 --> 01:00:00,400
can get out of this because

1609
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:02,319
managing our expectations are what

1610
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:03,839
what's going to make sure whether or not

1611
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:05,040
our emotions then

1612
01:00:11,030 --> 01:00:08,640
healthy through this process so

1613
01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:11,040
a lot of people out there have very

1614
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,040
strong beliefs and conditions based on

1615
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:15,119
their own experiences

1616
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,960
not everyone has had those experiences

1617
01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:18,480
so those beliefs and convictions

1618
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:20,240
don't hold the same weight with everyone

1619
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,520
else so

1620
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:23,599
finding that comfortable medium i think

1621
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:25,440
starts with finding out what do i really

1622
01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:26,640
need out of this

1623
01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:28,799
for myself i've gotten most of what i

1624
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:30,480
truly needed out of this i just needed

1625
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:32,000
to know that it was real and that what i

1626
01:00:35,270 --> 01:00:33,119
experienced

1627
01:00:37,030 --> 01:00:35,280
wasn't an aberration in my consciousness

1628
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:37,040
after that it's just an investigation

1629
01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:38,960
for me that's a lot of fun

1630
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:41,040
but for some people they're very sanity

1631
01:00:45,109 --> 01:00:43,040
pivots on the point as to whether or not

1632
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:45,119
they're correct

1633
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:48,160
so yeah i would say be very careful with

1634
01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:49,680
wanting to dial this in very

1635
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,359
specifically it's a very subtle

1636
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:53,119
phenomenon whatever it is and

1637
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:56,960
okay yes they do they hate so much to be

1638
01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:57,760
wrong and they

1639
01:01:01,109 --> 01:00:59,440
a lot of people need to be right to

1640
01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:01,119
continue functioning

1641
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:04,160
so you're right okay it happened

1642
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:06,160
one way or the other in consciousness in

1643
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:08,160
reality or whatever else

1644
01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:10,240
but figure out what you need that to be

1645
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:12,160
for yourself and if that's a possibility

1646
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:14,720
to even entertain me

1647
01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:16,720
it's interesting that you put it that

1648
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:18,720
way because as you do i start thinking

1649
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:20,559
you know answering that question in my

1650
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:23,359
own head as as you're asking it

1651
01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:26,240
and you know i i don't know if i

1652
01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:28,240
necessarily thought of it but

1653
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:31,440
i'm getting what i need which is this

1654
01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:34,640
show and talking to you and trying to

1655
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:37,680
bring aside to this that's very human um

1656
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:39,440
well you're doing so much healing by by

1657
01:01:42,549 --> 01:01:41,040
having so many people on this show and

1658
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:42,559
opening this subject up and your

1659
01:01:46,230 --> 01:01:43,440
attitude

1660
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:46,240
your compassion it leaks out man it's so

1661
01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:47,680
prevalent in your music and it's so

1662
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:49,760
prevalent in your aura

1663
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:52,960
um it's thanks you're one of those folks

1664
01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:56,160
that needs to have a microphone now

1665
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:59,200
well um i really appreciate you saying

1666
01:02:03,029 --> 01:01:59,839
that

1667
01:02:04,710 --> 01:02:03,039
um i've always wanted one

1668
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:04,720
and for whatever reason i've always

1669
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:06,640
wanted a large voice

1670
01:02:09,750 --> 01:02:08,720
and whatever was most important at the

1671
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:09,760
time

1672
01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:12,880
and only to be used for good and to help

1673
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:13,680
people

1674
01:02:17,270 --> 01:02:15,760
whether it's bringing them together

1675
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:17,280
showing compassion

1676
01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:20,160
and just being a hand that they can hold

1677
01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:22,240
and i can say it's going to be okay

1678
01:02:26,069 --> 01:02:24,799
you know um that's the world i want to

1679
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:26,079
live in man

1680
01:02:29,910 --> 01:02:28,400
i appreciate you yeah well i appreciate

1681
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:29,920
you because i wouldn't be here

1682
01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:35,280
probably without you so um

1683
01:02:39,750 --> 01:02:37,760
i don't have i mean i have a lot i i

1684
01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:39,760
could talk to you for five hours but

1685
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,960
your respectfulness let's give it a

1686
01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:42,720
let's give it another 15. let's give it

1687
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:43,680
another clip

1688
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:53,589
i think there's a leak in my roof or

1689
01:03:02,069 --> 01:02:55,440
something i was pouring

1690
01:03:03,829 --> 01:03:02,079
i'm just kidding i'm just kidding i'm

1691
01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:03,839
sorry

1692
01:03:11,190 --> 01:03:10,390
i know this is off topic but but we got

1693
01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:11,200
her i have a

1694
01:03:15,430 --> 01:03:14,559
few uh i've watched peaky blinders twice

1695
01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:15,440
during uh

1696
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:18,960
all of twice during a quarantine

1697
01:03:22,789 --> 01:03:21,280
um my daughter got me into the so i went

1698
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:22,799
through marvel all the whole marvel

1699
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:23,680
universe on the

1700
01:03:27,829 --> 01:03:26,000
disney channel over and over again and

1701
01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:27,839
long that out but then

1702
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:30,720
my daughter got me into the boys um one

1703
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:31,440
of my business

1704
01:03:35,910 --> 01:03:34,400
partners said the same thing and so i

1705
01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:35,920
was ready when the first time i watched

1706
01:03:38,789 --> 01:03:36,880
the boys

1707
01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:38,799
i couldn't handle it it was too violent

1708
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:40,319
and gross for me because i was in a

1709
01:03:44,390 --> 01:03:41,359
different

1710
01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:44,400
took the marvel universe and hit with

1711
01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:46,400
real people who had psychological issues

1712
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:47,760
and that were actually violent there was

1713
01:03:53,349 --> 01:03:49,599
cleanup afterwards that sounds familiar

1714
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:53,359
okay yeah so i've been uh

1715
01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:54,640
i've been watching stuff like that

1716
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:56,720
lately but i just

1717
01:03:59,750 --> 01:03:58,480
i don't have time for anything anymore i

1718
01:04:01,829 --> 01:03:59,760
try to i i'm not

1719
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:01,839
i'm not complaining like my playstation

1720
01:04:09,910 --> 01:04:04,000
got dust my tv's got dust

1721
01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:09,920
playstation uh uh first-gen oh

1722
01:04:14,150 --> 01:04:13,200
okay yeah mostly microsoft flight

1723
01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:14,160
simulator

1724
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:17,920
so oh that sounds fun um i haven't

1725
01:04:21,829 --> 01:04:20,319
yeah i was a huge video gamer and tv and

1726
01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:21,839
all that stuff but it just seems like

1727
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:22,799
the older i get

1728
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:27,119
the the less um captivating it becomes

1729
01:04:31,190 --> 01:04:30,480
to me you know um if you had to

1730
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:31,200
recommend

1731
01:04:36,789 --> 01:04:34,240
one movie or book um

1732
01:04:37,750 --> 01:04:36,799
that you think as far as your knowledge

1733
01:04:40,630 --> 01:04:37,760
base at this point

1734
01:04:42,309 --> 01:04:40,640
is most relatable to the phenomenon what

1735
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:42,319
would it be

1736
01:04:46,390 --> 01:04:44,960
i'm a firm believer uh a few of us have

1737
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:46,400
passed around a story

1738
01:04:51,750 --> 01:04:50,240
uh called chains of the sea it's a uh

1739
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:51,760
i think the people who have read it

1740
01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:53,119
immediately i think you just broke your

1741
01:04:56,870 --> 01:04:53,760
neck knot

1742
01:04:59,910 --> 01:04:56,880
yeah i mean it it covers the whole

1743
01:05:02,069 --> 01:04:59,920
the whole spectrum of almost

1744
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:02,079
everything that we could include in this

1745
01:05:06,309 --> 01:05:04,160
um

1746
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:06,319
movies-wise i i like the movie the

1747
01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:08,000
arrival just for the idea

1748
01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:10,079
that it's a paradigm shifting movie as

1749
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:13,119
far as communication goes yeah

1750
01:05:17,029 --> 01:05:14,799
my wife and i love that movie we just

1751
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:17,039
rewatched it like yesterday

1752
01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:18,400
because you're like oh yeah remember

1753
01:05:21,670 --> 01:05:20,079
that yeah that's

1754
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:21,680
that's an interesting movie especially

1755
01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:24,480
the uh well the communication aspect you

1756
01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:27,119
know imagining what that would look like

1757
01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:29,280
yeah and the portion in interstellar

1758
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:30,559
where he was uh

1759
01:05:35,190 --> 01:05:33,520
trying to figure out how to utilize the

1760
01:05:36,470 --> 01:05:35,200
unum or the multiverse or wherever he

1761
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:36,480
was yeah that was

1762
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:39,280
awesome see that one i had this issue

1763
01:05:43,589 --> 01:05:40,880
with trying to re-watch that one

1764
01:05:44,390 --> 01:05:43,599
i tried like the first time i watched it

1765
01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:44,400
i thought it

1766
01:05:49,910 --> 01:05:48,079
um and then

1767
01:05:51,190 --> 01:05:49,920
and i wasn't into all this stuff at that

1768
01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:51,200
point but um

1769
01:05:54,549 --> 01:05:53,760
i tried to rewatch it now and matthew

1770
01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:54,559
mcconaughey

1771
01:05:59,270 --> 01:05:58,960
is just over acting like so hardcore the

1772
01:06:01,510 --> 01:05:59,280
first

1773
01:06:05,270 --> 01:06:01,520
like whatever it's like oh come on dude

1774
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:05,280
don't ruin this for me

1775
01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:08,079
but it's a good movie yeah um and he's

1776
01:06:12,069 --> 01:06:09,680
so handsome he can do whatever he wants

1777
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:15,029
um okay so chains of the sea and arrival

1778
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:16,240
interesting

1779
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:19,760
um what do you do on a day off you have

1780
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,400
vacation

1781
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:23,920
what and you can do whatever you want

1782
01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:25,680
let's say you're at your home spot or

1783
01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:27,200
wherever

1784
01:06:30,549 --> 01:06:29,039
well these days i spend all my time with

1785
01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:30,559
my wife and kids when it comes to that

1786
01:06:33,670 --> 01:06:31,280
but if

1787
01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:33,680
if we were in like an equilibrium you

1788
01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:34,559
know not on

1789
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:37,440
like a media push like right now a day

1790
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:42,710
i wake up around 3 30 in the morning um

1791
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:43,839
i meditate

1792
01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:46,720
me too i do occasionally do a little

1793
01:06:51,190 --> 01:06:48,240
yoga but not a lot

1794
01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:51,200
um i'll read and then do my emails and

1795
01:06:54,630 --> 01:06:52,799
things after that

1796
01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:54,640
i usually try to if i'm off i try to

1797
01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:56,480
greet the sunrise i like to go out and

1798
01:07:00,309 --> 01:06:58,240
uh and just kind of sit there with a

1799
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:00,319
glass of water just be

1800
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:03,440
um not having any thoughts before work

1801
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:05,280
kind of charge up my ass on the ground

1802
01:07:09,670 --> 01:07:06,480
and uh and do

1803
01:07:11,029 --> 01:07:09,680
that when that's done um if i'm being

1804
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:11,039
good i'm probably going to work around

1805
01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:12,160
the house if not

1806
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:14,480
i'll probably climb into the hot tub and

1807
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:16,240
do some more staring at the sky i mean i

1808
01:07:22,950 --> 01:07:16,480
am

1809
01:07:25,349 --> 01:07:22,960
but i a friend of mine gifted me a a

1810
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:25,359
roland electronic drum set during uh

1811
01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:28,000
oh during the quarantine uh that he when

1812
01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:28,880
he upgraded

1813
01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:30,799
and i've never been able to keep a beat

1814
01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:32,000
my whole life

1815
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:35,440
um and now all i do is play drums i plug

1816
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:36,240
my i

1817
01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:40,000
i don't listen to hip hop

1818
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:42,400
or radio music that much and i've been

1819
01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:43,200
it's really fun

1820
01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:44,960
i'm playing drums to dodge a cat and

1821
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:51,510
well if you ever need um this is getting

1822
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:52,319
you know off

1823
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:54,160
uh interesting topics for other people

1824
01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:55,520
but if you ever need good

1825
01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:58,480
like drum plug-ins the abbey road ones

1826
01:08:02,630 --> 01:07:58,799
are

1827
01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:02,640
it's waves

1828
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:05,359
yeah um yeah i don't play drums either

1829
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:06,160
but i design

1830
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:08,160
all the grooves and stuff myself and

1831
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:11,280
clip it together and logic and stuff

1832
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:14,880
so yeah um

1833
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:16,319
are you going to keep making music do

1834
01:08:18,149 --> 01:08:17,839
you think you'll keep doing that kind of

1835
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:18,159
thing

1836
01:08:22,829 --> 01:08:20,400
and incorporating it and you're into the

1837
01:08:24,470 --> 01:08:22,839
ufo projects or whatever you're working

1838
01:08:27,349 --> 01:08:24,480
on yeah

1839
01:08:29,110 --> 01:08:27,359
um i've had the opportunity to provide

1840
01:08:32,149 --> 01:08:29,120
music for a few a couple projects

1841
01:08:34,229 --> 01:08:32,159
um some score in the background uh i do

1842
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:34,239
that low-key my music's also low-key i

1843
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:35,359
don't want to

1844
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:37,600
i want that to take away from the the

1845
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:39,040
overall mission a lot of people get

1846
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,239
confused when they're like well

1847
01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:42,480
he's trying to be like emily's other

1848
01:08:45,189 --> 01:08:44,080
people he's stunned if i should marry

1849
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:45,199
the two or not but

1850
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:47,759
yeah a lot of people tell me that they

1851
01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:49,199
think that music is going to be the key

1852
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:49,759
with this

1853
01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:52,960
and and i dig it i just

1854
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:55,520
i don't like that how do you know yeah

1855
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:56,000
yeah

1856
01:09:02,470 --> 01:08:59,839
and like i'll never stop making music

1857
01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:02,480
i mean when the when the news for lack

1858
01:09:05,669 --> 01:09:03,839
of a better word tells me to write a

1859
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:05,679
song i go write a song and like you it's

1860
01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:06,000
it's

1861
01:09:10,550 --> 01:09:08,560
10 or 20 minutes i mean i yeah i don't

1862
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:10,560
do two takes i don't work on a symphony

1863
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:11,600
for three weeks i

1864
01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:14,960
i i can't barf out a product

1865
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:17,279
and then that's how it is for the rest

1866
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:18,719
of its life

1867
01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:22,400
so i'm sure you didn't barf it but

1868
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:27,430
um all right i haven't asked this

1869
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:31,120
question in a while um

1870
01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:32,880
oh sweet we got another musician here

1871
01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:34,319
native instruments yep

1872
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:35,839
yeah totally it'd be real serious there

1873
01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:37,679
you go rodrigo he's from portugal

1874
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:41,040
that's where my ancestors are from um

1875
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:42,960
yeah they were there around the fatima

1876
01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:44,960
thing i'm trying to learn more about

1877
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:45,839
that but

1878
01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:48,480
uh the fatima operations i think seem to

1879
01:09:51,510 --> 01:09:50,239
me that the catholic church got their

1880
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:51,520
hands on a

1881
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:55,040
impactful scenario and

1882
01:09:58,870 --> 01:09:56,400
and yeah that kind of did what they

1883
01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:58,880
wanted with it that's been like the al

1884
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:00,159
capone's vaults

1885
01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:03,280
of of where ufology meets religion it's

1886
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:03,840
you know

1887
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:06,560
yeah again it's like could we just tell

1888
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:07,679
us what's going on

1889
01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:10,880
yeah right well then you got that

1890
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:15,040
sweater very interesting over here

1891
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:16,800
we'll talk about it next week next week

1892
01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:19,280
comes up it's a black door it opens but

1893
01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:20,320
will it

1894
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,679
find out next week right

1895
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:25,360
i was there when he opened those vaults

1896
01:10:30,790 --> 01:10:26,640
man all of us were like what did you

1897
01:10:33,910 --> 01:10:30,800
just do to us

1898
01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:33,920
um yeah no

1899
01:10:38,229 --> 01:10:36,800
um oh spaceship or time machine did you

1900
01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:38,239
answer

1901
01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:41,360
oh no both both you can't pick both men

1902
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:42,239
well

1903
01:10:46,470 --> 01:10:45,040
a ufo's a uso as a time machine if it's

1904
01:10:49,270 --> 01:10:46,480
if it's got all five of the five

1905
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:50,709
do you think i don't know what it can't

1906
01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:52,320
do you know

1907
01:10:55,750 --> 01:10:54,080
i one of the things i can't stop

1908
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:55,760
thinking about especially with this tech

1909
01:10:59,910 --> 01:10:58,560
it's a hundred thousand years ahead well

1910
01:11:02,630 --> 01:10:59,920
then we're going to have it at some

1911
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:02,640
point and who's to say we're not just

1912
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:05,199
traveling backwards

1913
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:08,159
that's a i mean and i'm not a physicist

1914
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:09,840
so i'm totally fine with proving me

1915
01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:11,199
wrong but at no point in this

1916
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:12,000
conversation

1917
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:14,000
at the higher levels has anyone ever oh

1918
01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:15,199
that's [\h__\h]

1919
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:18,560
everyone goes like that so yeah

1920
01:11:22,390 --> 01:11:20,400
that's another piece of that where you

1921
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:22,400
could sit down and blow your own mind

1922
01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:25,040
for an hour over the possibilities of

1923
01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:26,640
whoa if you have one of those who are

1924
01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:27,600
they they could be

1925
01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:30,960
anybody anywhere anywhere

1926
01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:33,679
yeah sometimes i even wonder if it's

1927
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:34,560
like you know when

1928
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:37,760
people meditate and you know when i do

1929
01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:39,520
i'm very amateur i don't really know

1930
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:40,800
what i'm doing so i'd

1931
01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:42,560
take recommendations on where to start

1932
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:44,320
but when i try

1933
01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:47,040
um i find myself leaving my body looking

1934
01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:49,679
down at where it is and then i go

1935
01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:52,719
usually to the universe

1936
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:55,199
and just imagine myself first person

1937
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:56,800
flying through the universe looking at

1938
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:57,520
stars

1939
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:59,360
not looking at myself looking at through

1940
01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:01,120
my own eyes and stuff

1941
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:06,790
yeah it's really you could easily

1942
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:08,640
convince yourself

1943
01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:10,640
of the things you see i guess it's hard

1944
01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:17,270
but there are if you're willing to

1945
01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:22,070
oh what do i want to say if you're

1946
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:26,080
willing to exercise your imagination

1947
01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:27,760
there are correlations to be made that

1948
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:29,920
are very interesting so when you say to

1949
01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:30,239
your

1950
01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:32,640
say me i wonder if i'll say i'll say it

1951
01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:33,520
differently

1952
01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:37,040
if if you wonder if that's you

1953
01:12:40,630 --> 01:12:38,719
that i'm seeing when you're meditating

1954
01:12:42,470 --> 01:12:40,640
or if it's me or if it's someone else

1955
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:42,480
that's a really good question

1956
01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:45,600
yeah i think that that's

1957
01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:49,600
yeah interesting is it always that way

1958
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:51,679
probably not but and and are some of

1959
01:12:56,149 --> 01:12:53,600
these vehicles probably trying to

1960
01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:56,159
imitate maybe trying to imitate that

1961
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:57,520
interesting

1962
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:59,760
maybe they're artificial look there's a

1963
01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:00,880
phrase here a lot of people in the

1964
01:13:05,669 --> 01:13:02,480
audience

1965
01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:05,679
okay an artificial merkabah is what a

1966
01:13:08,390 --> 01:13:07,040
lot of people are probably out there

1967
01:13:10,149 --> 01:13:08,400
hoping that i'm going to say

1968
01:13:11,510 --> 01:13:10,159
and that's okay i don't know what that

1969
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:11,520
is sure it's a maybe

1970
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:14,320
it's a it's a mystic uh construct from

1971
01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:15,360
jude

1972
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:17,760
uh mystic judaism for lack of a better

1973
01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:18,480
word but it's

1974
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:21,040
interesting it's a three-dimensional uh

1975
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:22,960
star tetrahedron

1976
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:26,719
aka the star of david um

1977
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,280
a lot of esoteric uh traditions say that

1978
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:31,280
when we're meditating that is our

1979
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:34,400
that that we have a astral vehicle

1980
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:37,760
that we can utilize so

1981
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:39,679
it's a very good question i don't think

1982
01:13:44,830 --> 01:13:42,400
because i can go imagine these spaces

1983
01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:44,840
and what's the difference between that

1984
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:46,159
vibration

1985
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:48,800
and frequency in my microtubules and the

1986
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:49,520
one that's

1987
01:13:57,669 --> 01:13:55,840
reflecting light into you know so do you

1988
01:13:59,590 --> 01:13:57,679
try to see things like it

1989
01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:59,600
is through your eyes like where you

1990
01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:01,280
don't see your body it's like

1991
01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:02,800
you're looking through your eyes like

1992
01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:04,320
everything's like this

1993
01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:07,520
you know yeah i try to i try to look at

1994
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:08,640
my perception

1995
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:11,280
from all of its different angles not

1996
01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:11,679
just

1997
01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:14,719
straight out of here interesting um

1998
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:16,800
trying to see through your own eyelids

1999
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:19,600
is a very interesting experiment

2000
01:14:27,669 --> 01:14:22,800
yeah uh

2001
01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:30,790
yeah um yeah i got stories from what

2002
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:32,480
i've seen that have brought me to

2003
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:34,159
when you're driving you know yeah well

2004
01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:36,239
that's i'm trying to have the best

2005
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:38,320
out-of-body experience i can so

2006
01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:41,199
if it happens while i'm driving it would

2007
01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:43,120
be so just normal

2008
01:14:47,350 --> 01:14:45,920
you know just you die you're out of body

2009
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:47,360
here we are

2010
01:14:52,870 --> 01:14:50,640
yeah so um yeah that's

2011
01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:52,880
an hour and 15 and i'm starting to run

2012
01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:55,120
out of

2013
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:58,800
intelligent things to say and ask

2014
01:15:01,910 --> 01:15:00,239
what's next for you what's the big

2015
01:15:02,870 --> 01:15:01,920
project that's what's what's on your

2016
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:02,880
radar

2017
01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:06,560
um i you know i try not to make

2018
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:08,719
too many goals because i feel like life

2019
01:15:13,270 --> 01:15:10,000
kind of just does what it wants

2020
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:13,280
with you to a certain extent so

2021
01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:15,840
my goal is always to just be better than

2022
01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:17,520
i was yesterday

2023
01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:21,440
um whether that is you know

2024
01:15:25,910 --> 01:15:24,320
not saying something i said or you know

2025
01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:25,920
mistake i've made at home

2026
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:28,239
or something on here how i could have

2027
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:29,360
opened somebody up more

2028
01:15:32,950 --> 01:15:31,280
made them feel more comfortable i just

2029
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:32,960
want to grow and help

2030
01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:36,640
and there is no big project for that or

2031
01:15:39,510 --> 01:15:37,920
goal for that

2032
01:15:42,310 --> 01:15:39,520
for me it's just putting in those

2033
01:15:44,470 --> 01:15:42,320
actions making calls calling congress

2034
01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:44,480
trying to activate myself along with

2035
01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:45,520
other people

2036
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:48,640
knowing that they can do things as

2037
01:15:53,110 --> 01:15:49,920
easily as anyone else

2038
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:53,120
but they have to make the action and i

2039
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:54,800
think i have a good voice for that

2040
01:15:58,790 --> 01:15:57,199
because all my experience managing and

2041
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:58,800
companies and all that stuff

2042
01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:00,400
so i'm just trying to bring all that

2043
01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:02,800
here and and help

2044
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:05,760
you know in whatever way i can so i have

2045
01:16:10,390 --> 01:16:06,880
a smaller voice

2046
01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:10,400
now and i'm okay with that um

2047
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:12,320
it is what it is if it gets bigger it

2048
01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:14,400
gets bigger but i'm also prepared

2049
01:16:18,149 --> 01:16:16,480
for it to stay here and i would be happy

2050
01:16:19,990 --> 01:16:18,159
you know because

2051
01:16:21,270 --> 01:16:20,000
20 years of making music and playing

2052
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:21,280
shows and all that

2053
01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:24,320
i've had to realize the hard way that

2054
01:16:29,510 --> 01:16:27,440
if you just affect one person

2055
01:16:31,990 --> 01:16:29,520
and it changes their life or a decision

2056
01:16:35,110 --> 01:16:32,000
they make that then changes their life

2057
01:16:37,510 --> 01:16:35,120
it's worth it you know yeah so that's

2058
01:16:39,990 --> 01:16:37,520
what i'm trying to do

2059
01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:40,000
so no big goals or aspirations if you

2060
01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:42,159
know um

2061
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:43,840
if somebody needs help with something

2062
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:45,760
i'm there so

2063
01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:47,440
i think it's pretty apparent you know

2064
01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:48,880
you're one of those people

2065
01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:50,640
seems to have made the decision that i'm

2066
01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:52,960
gonna i'm gonna choose good

2067
01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:54,800
and i'm gonna try to do it whenever i

2068
01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:56,880
can and it kind of leaks out of you

2069
01:17:03,590 --> 01:17:00,080
and i truly appreciate it man you're

2070
01:17:03,990 --> 01:17:03,600
you are a very bright light on on the on

2071
01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:04,000
the

2072
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:05,679
horizon right now i really want to see

2073
01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:07,440
you shine more so i hope that you keep

2074
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:09,120
feeling that courage and that validation

2075
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:10,640
for the rest of us

2076
01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:12,400
yeah well you know that's funny you do

2077
01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:14,320
need that validation i've never had it

2078
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:16,400
my entire life so that might be

2079
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:18,480
uh you know an aspect of this that keeps

2080
01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:19,520
me coming too

2081
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:23,440
you know like that somebody actually it

2082
01:17:27,430 --> 01:17:26,480
needs this or whatever you know see it's

2083
01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:27,440
okay once you

2084
01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:29,040
once you put the momentum into the

2085
01:17:32,470 --> 01:17:31,199
system of being compassionate and giving

2086
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:32,480
it's okay to

2087
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:36,719
then it's always okay to take your part

2088
01:17:39,430 --> 01:17:38,080
but it's always better when you're

2089
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:39,440
giving a little bit more and you help

2090
01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:40,800
keep the momentum going

2091
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:43,440
yeah i feel just just give be helpful be

2092
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:44,800
compassionate and

2093
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:46,560
everything else will come into place you

2094
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:47,840
know i've been

2095
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:49,920
so many times you know sleeping in my

2096
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:51,040
music studio [\h__\h]

2097
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:53,280
in a garbage can whatever the hell you

2098
01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:56,000
know years and years ago but yeah like

2099
01:18:00,149 --> 01:17:58,640
down you know in the dumps but you know

2100
01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:00,159
for whatever reason

2101
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:02,080
it's it's always okay it's always going

2102
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:03,600
to be okay

2103
01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:05,440
you know as long as i have the strength

2104
01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:07,920
to get up it's always going to be okay

2105
01:18:12,709 --> 01:18:10,880
you know i've never been into such a bad

2106
01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:12,719
point where i just fortunately

2107
01:18:17,750 --> 01:18:15,199
have no roof or no money or no food and

2108
01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:17,760
i'm sleeping in a sewer like

2109
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:20,000
i've always been fortunate enough to be

2110
01:18:23,189 --> 01:18:20,880
taken care of

2111
01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:23,199
and i think that's because of that

2112
01:18:29,189 --> 01:18:26,640
energy i always consistently put out

2113
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:29,199
even when i was younger that was a goal

2114
01:18:32,950 --> 01:18:29,679
of mine

2115
01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:32,960
was to be helpful i just didn't realize

2116
01:18:36,070 --> 01:18:34,400
it fully then

2117
01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:36,080
but i think in a lot of ways that's the

2118
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:37,760
key to this i know

2119
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:39,520
so many of our of the folks that we talk

2120
01:18:43,030 --> 01:18:41,440
to every day they want to see something

2121
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:43,040
sitting on the ground on a tripod and

2122
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:45,440
they want to see somebody walk out of it

2123
01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:46,560
i don't know that's always going to be

2124
01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:49,280
the easy answer for this no

2125
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:52,960
and videos data

2126
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:56,320
all that stuff i mean the point is

2127
01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:57,120
completely

2128
01:19:02,070 --> 01:18:59,360
like data to be able to prove something

2129
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:02,080
will get everybody else to just relax

2130
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:04,159
a little bit and say okay here we go and

2131
01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:06,719
start like thinking the right way

2132
01:19:12,709 --> 01:19:10,480
yeah um so that's

2133
01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:12,719
that's that's great i hope we get it um

2134
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:16,159
for that um but for me i'm past that

2135
01:19:21,030 --> 01:19:19,600
and i'm i'm trying yeah i'm trying to

2136
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:21,040
i'm trying to you know i don't want to

2137
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:22,640
say the phenomenon but there is

2138
01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:24,640
something that i talk to and connect

2139
01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:25,120
with

2140
01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:28,159
and it you know whatever happens

2141
01:19:32,709 --> 01:19:30,080
it's helping and it's putting me in a

2142
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:32,719
place and i'm not asking questions

2143
01:19:37,510 --> 01:19:35,920
i'm living out what i think i should be

2144
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:37,520
living out in it

2145
01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:39,760
i know it's right because it's made me

2146
01:19:43,270 --> 01:19:42,000
happier than ever before yeah it's made

2147
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:43,280
me more fulfilled

2148
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:45,520
than ever before when i first got out of

2149
01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:47,360
high school i wanted to be a radio dj

2150
01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:49,920
and go to the school in minnesota for it

2151
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:51,120
but my parents couldn't

2152
01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:53,520
afford it i couldn't afford it so i went

2153
01:20:00,149 --> 01:19:56,560
and started working full time right away

2154
01:20:04,149 --> 01:20:02,470
i can't even mention all the crap that

2155
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:04,159
happened in all that time

2156
01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:07,199
and here i am with this microphone kind

2157
01:20:13,189 --> 01:20:11,830
after all that time it's just weird i've

2158
01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:13,199
got a lot of things i

2159
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:16,239
i've said to someone in a

2160
01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:19,280
in an email recently that i feel like

2161
01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:21,600
that i've

2162
01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:23,199
i feel like i've been fortunate to

2163
01:20:29,669 --> 01:20:26,080
experience the non-linearity of time

2164
01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:29,679
i'm able to see thoughts impressions

2165
01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:31,760
ideas and dreams from my childhood that

2166
01:20:36,790 --> 01:20:33,679
are happening now

2167
01:20:38,629 --> 01:20:36,800
and aspects from my younger life that

2168
01:20:41,350 --> 01:20:38,639
didn't make sense then

2169
01:20:42,790 --> 01:20:41,360
and left me feeling empty and realizing

2170
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:42,800
that i was seeing something

2171
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:45,280
that was ahead of me so you saw when you

2172
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:46,960
were younger

2173
01:20:51,030 --> 01:20:49,840
yeah you know i'm i'm i'm careful with

2174
01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:51,040
how i say it

2175
01:20:55,189 --> 01:20:52,880
yeah right you know because none of us

2176
01:20:56,550 --> 01:20:55,199
know what the interior response of any

2177
01:20:59,990 --> 01:20:56,560
other person is like

2178
01:21:01,750 --> 01:21:00,000
or the interior situation so

2179
01:21:03,830 --> 01:21:01,760
i always felt like there's something

2180
01:21:05,830 --> 01:21:03,840
about now that has that always felt like

2181
01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:05,840
it was missing

2182
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:09,600
and there's an ease of speech that i

2183
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:11,199
have when i talk to folks about this

2184
01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:14,080
that doesn't exist elsewhere in my life

2185
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:17,840
um i'm not a great communicator at home

2186
01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:20,159
i am not a great communicator in my

2187
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:22,800
relationships with my friends

2188
01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:24,719
but this subject seems to be something

2189
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:26,960
that just falls out of my mouth

2190
01:21:32,550 --> 01:21:30,320
and i yes so it's

2191
01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:32,560
confusing sometimes but it's the only

2192
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:33,920
thing in my life that i've ever been

2193
01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:36,480
able to like put any faith in

2194
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:38,480
i don't do any prep for this except for

2195
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:40,080
listening to a couple of songs and

2196
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:43,520
chilling out and then i go talk to folks

2197
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:45,760
it's you know i've had that thought

2198
01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:47,280
where it's like a cause

2199
01:21:55,189 --> 01:21:52,080
i can fully believe in because it's not

2200
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:55,199
it's not i guess weighed down

2201
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:58,239
by partisanship

2202
01:22:01,910 --> 01:22:00,239
and false narratives well i mean false

2203
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:01,920
narratives yeah but i mean

2204
01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:03,760
there's a truth here that is completely

2205
01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:05,920
bipartisan

2206
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:09,280
um and honest and meaningful

2207
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:10,800
and i've been searching for something

2208
01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:12,800
that means something

2209
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:16,480
like my whole life you know and i think

2210
01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:19,679
that's why that's why it falls out of

2211
01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:20,159
your mouth

2212
01:22:23,669 --> 01:22:22,560
because it means actually means

2213
01:22:25,350 --> 01:22:23,679
something

2214
01:22:27,669 --> 01:22:25,360
you know like i can't go to a bar and

2215
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:27,679
have small talk like

2216
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:30,239
that's hard for me no i'm not very i

2217
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:30,880
don't

2218
01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:32,560
not unless the other person's like i

2219
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:34,400
know you're invested

2220
01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:35,360
you know this is a different

2221
01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:36,800
conversation than i might have with

2222
01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:38,320
chris cuomo he's you know we're there to

2223
01:22:43,270 --> 01:22:39,920
hit

2224
01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:43,280
next thing yeah

2225
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:45,360
but this is this is real man i'm not

2226
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:47,600
gonna i'm not gonna come on here and

2227
01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:50,880
give you this party line platform

2228
01:22:53,189 --> 01:22:52,560
nonsense number one there is no party

2229
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:53,199
line

2230
01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:55,679
everybody i finally hit that thing man

2231
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:57,199
i've been telling lou for

2232
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:59,520
for a year more than a year don't listen

2233
01:23:02,629 --> 01:23:00,639
to the haters

2234
01:23:04,390 --> 01:23:02,639
the don't pay any attention to those

2235
01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:04,400
people and then finally

2236
01:23:07,510 --> 01:23:06,719
i saw one that that stuck in me i was

2237
01:23:09,669 --> 01:23:07,520
like someone

2238
01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:09,679
said oh this guy's a op he's pre-made

2239
01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:11,520
they they polish this turret up and put

2240
01:23:14,470 --> 01:23:13,199
him in front of all of us and

2241
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:14,480
and he's the one that's going to spell

2242
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:16,239
this crap to us and i was just like man

2243
01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:17,840
if you knew

2244
01:23:21,189 --> 01:23:19,600
what my family's been through what my

2245
01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:21,199
friends have been through yes

2246
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:24,400
you know the the the non the financial

2247
01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:25,760
hits and all that and i'm not saying

2248
01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:27,920
what was me man this is a daily

2249
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:29,199
i get up every day and i go let's

2250
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:30,960
frickin do this again i'm not

2251
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:32,480
complaining

2252
01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:35,440
but it's just it does suck so so

2253
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:37,120
watching lou go through everything he

2254
01:23:41,830 --> 01:23:38,639
has i used to be kind of

2255
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:41,840
like dude let it go you know haters

2256
01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:43,280
gonna hate

2257
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:44,400
and then they came and then you know

2258
01:23:46,310 --> 01:23:45,679
when they started coming after me and

2259
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:46,320
sending me

2260
01:23:49,590 --> 01:23:47,600
messages you know some people want to

2261
01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:49,600
send you emails about that you're evil

2262
01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:51,199
and you're this and it's like man i'm

2263
01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:51,760
just

2264
01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:53,920
i'm doing my dishes right now i'm trying

2265
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:55,840
to read this catching up

2266
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:57,040
and then go help my kids with their

2267
01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:58,320
homework i'm like i don't know who you

2268
01:24:01,990 --> 01:23:59,679
think i am man

2269
01:24:03,669 --> 01:24:02,000
so that's uh you know there definitely

2270
01:24:04,790 --> 01:24:03,679
is i mean for a lack of better words

2271
01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:04,800
positive or negative

2272
01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:06,639
light or dark or whatever there

2273
01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:08,239
definitely is you know

2274
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:11,280
something that is you know

2275
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:13,840
tries to put out the light basically all

2276
01:24:18,790 --> 01:24:16,560
the time that way sometimes yeah um

2277
01:24:19,750 --> 01:24:18,800
and i don't think that the people that

2278
01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:19,760
do this stuff

2279
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:23,600
really realize you know what's happening

2280
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:25,199
you know i think they're just kind of a

2281
01:24:29,030 --> 01:24:27,360
little more maybe blinded and

2282
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:29,040
a little more darkness and despair than

2283
01:24:33,510 --> 01:24:30,800
they'd like to admit

2284
01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:33,520
yeah i don't like to present myself as

2285
01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:35,840
someone who knows what's going on

2286
01:24:39,270 --> 01:24:37,440
no but i like the things that's the

2287
01:24:39,830 --> 01:24:39,280
ticket that's their that's the whole

2288
01:24:43,510 --> 01:24:39,840
thing

2289
01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:43,520
you know as you say that so

2290
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:44,960
well but it's like i just want to get

2291
01:24:48,790 --> 01:24:47,280
more people in and not in a hippie way

2292
01:24:51,590 --> 01:24:48,800
okay but i want to get more people in

2293
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:51,600
now just slow down

2294
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:53,920
slow down be be right here now for a

2295
01:24:57,750 --> 01:24:55,280
minute throw all your

2296
01:24:58,870 --> 01:24:57,760
past practices and convictions out the

2297
01:25:02,229 --> 01:24:58,880
window and just

2298
01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:02,239
consider you know how you would move

2299
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:03,280
forward

2300
01:25:07,510 --> 01:25:05,520
if this is what's going on just start

2301
01:25:11,669 --> 01:25:07,520
there just hypothesize

2302
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:11,679
what does it mean for you yeah yeah like

2303
01:25:16,229 --> 01:25:14,000
on one of my uh episodes when i don't

2304
01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:16,239
have guests sometimes i just go

2305
01:25:19,350 --> 01:25:17,840
go on little rants i guess or whatever

2306
01:25:23,430 --> 01:25:19,360
but one was

2307
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:23,440
um yeah what does this mean for you like

2308
01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:27,120
what will work look like what will

2309
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:29,199
your house look like what were your

2310
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:30,719
relationships look like

2311
01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:32,960
you know like what are you still gonna

2312
01:25:37,510 --> 01:25:33,760
have a car

2313
01:25:38,830 --> 01:25:37,520
or you know what what if this whole

2314
01:25:41,669 --> 01:25:38,840
thing

2315
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:41,679
exposes a different

2316
01:25:44,870 --> 01:25:44,080
um a different way to look at life a

2317
01:25:47,590 --> 01:25:44,880
different way

2318
01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:47,600
to look at civilization and humanity

2319
01:25:51,590 --> 01:25:48,400
survival

2320
01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:51,600
and thriving versus surviving

2321
01:25:54,629 --> 01:25:53,040
what if there's a different way to live

2322
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:54,639
and what if we don't have to

2323
01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:56,880
we don't have to flip game board to

2324
01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:58,239
change things

2325
01:26:01,430 --> 01:26:00,960
you know that would be great yeah that'd

2326
01:26:06,070 --> 01:26:01,440
be great

2327
01:26:10,709 --> 01:26:06,080
um people should be able to do

2328
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:10,719
with their life what they want and not

2329
01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:14,719
have to change their choices

2330
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:17,360
for monetary reasons you know or other

2331
01:26:20,070 --> 01:26:18,480
things

2332
01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:20,080
like i think it would be need if we

2333
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:21,600
could whatever

2334
01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:23,040
no i was just saying like a musician

2335
01:26:26,229 --> 01:26:24,639
should be able to work and

2336
01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:26,239
play music every day and try to write

2337
01:26:30,310 --> 01:26:27,760
the best stuff he can

2338
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,320
you know but that doesn't happen because

2339
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:32,159
it doesn't pay

2340
01:26:37,990 --> 01:26:36,480
you know yeah it's like but in real life

2341
01:26:40,709 --> 01:26:38,000
it shouldn't be about money but it kind

2342
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:40,719
of forces you into a little square

2343
01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:44,719
you know yeah man we

2344
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:47,600
are we're on the cusp of that of that

2345
01:26:50,709 --> 01:26:48,320
idea

2346
01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:50,719
of um you know some people think of it

2347
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:52,400
as a utopia

2348
01:26:56,229 --> 01:26:54,960
other people think of it as a as a they

2349
01:26:59,189 --> 01:26:56,239
see it as a hell

2350
01:26:59,669 --> 01:26:59,199
um it's all about politics when you get

2351
01:27:02,709 --> 01:26:59,679
to those

2352
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:02,719
polarized ideas of the future yeah and

2353
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:04,800
that's just fear and control but

2354
01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:07,600
yeah if somebody like you or somebody

2355
01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:08,400
like me

2356
01:27:11,590 --> 01:27:10,080
if we wanted to we should have been able

2357
01:27:13,830 --> 01:27:11,600
to live while

2358
01:27:15,189 --> 01:27:13,840
expressing ourselves as an artist but i

2359
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:15,199
was never

2360
01:27:24,790 --> 01:27:21,199
consider making a living at it

2361
01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:24,800
um it was always concerns to knock that

2362
01:27:27,910 --> 01:27:26,480
crap off and get a real job

2363
01:27:29,990 --> 01:27:27,920
and that i wasn't good enough i mean i

2364
01:27:31,110 --> 01:27:30,000
was told by the people like encouraging

2365
01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:31,120
me

2366
01:27:34,629 --> 01:27:33,360
but what's that yeah i was told i had a

2367
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:34,639
lousy voice i was told

2368
01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:36,159
when i was a teenager you don't have a

2369
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:37,760
distinctive enough voice for this and i

2370
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:39,120
mean maybe when i was a teenager i

2371
01:27:43,990 --> 01:27:40,320
didn't but

2372
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:44,000
yeah i know until now yeah

2373
01:27:48,149 --> 01:27:46,800
i was pretty bad then yeah it took it

2374
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:48,159
took a long time for

2375
01:27:52,070 --> 01:27:50,480
yeah me to find my voice and all that

2376
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:52,080
and i sound like somebody straggle

2377
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:53,600
strangling scooby-doo

2378
01:27:57,750 --> 01:27:56,639
yeah no like tom waits hey it's good

2379
01:27:59,990 --> 01:27:57,760
stuff

2380
01:28:01,750 --> 01:28:00,000
yeah yeah yeah back then i was like i'll

2381
01:28:03,590 --> 01:28:01,760
smoke a half a pack of cigarettes and

2382
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:03,600
i'll yell for 10 minutes now my voice is

2383
01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:09,270
oh yeah i have a loud voice that's

2384
01:28:12,950 --> 01:28:10,320
definitely

2385
01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:12,960
um something i have so if you ever need

2386
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:15,120
someone to get a hold of a crowd in a

2387
01:28:17,990 --> 01:28:16,320
huge arena and you don't have a

2388
01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:18,000
microphone

2389
01:28:21,669 --> 01:28:20,800
that's me i've seriously at shows at

2390
01:28:24,070 --> 01:28:21,679
like

2391
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:24,080
bigger places i've actually tested

2392
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:24,719
myself

2393
01:28:28,229 --> 01:28:27,120
to see if i could sing a part of it

2394
01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:28,239
without the microphone

2395
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:30,960
and get over the crowd noise i like to

2396
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:33,280
brag that i have i have dressed off an

2397
01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:33,920
entire

2398
01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:36,080
aircraft carrier crew on the flight deck

2399
01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:42,239
without a microphone

2400
01:28:46,470 --> 01:28:44,400
holy crap yeah well i did it i did it

2401
01:28:47,830 --> 01:28:46,480
with the wind not against it so it

2402
01:28:51,189 --> 01:28:47,840
worked out

2403
01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:51,199
uh have you ever skydived no

2404
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:52,719
i'm i'm actually really afraid of

2405
01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:54,400
heights really

2406
01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:57,280
i i uh i found that out at the top of

2407
01:28:59,710 --> 01:28:59,280
the ladder

2408
01:29:03,590 --> 01:28:59,720
oh

2409
01:29:05,030 --> 01:29:03,600
[Laughter]

2410
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:05,040
found out i was afraid of heights at the

2411
01:29:10,629 --> 01:29:07,920
top of a ladder on a on a oil tanker

2412
01:29:12,790 --> 01:29:10,639
in the northern arabian gulf after uh we

2413
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,800
when we went on board they were full

2414
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:14,880
and so the accommodation ladder was like

2415
01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:17,120
this and they emptied at the terminal

2416
01:29:21,430 --> 01:29:18,639
while we were on board

2417
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:21,440
and the ladder became vertical and i

2418
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:22,080
almost

2419
01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:25,440
wet my pants um i and i

2420
01:29:27,830 --> 01:29:26,960
was the first one to go down the ladder

2421
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:27,840
and my guys were like what are you

2422
01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:29,280
waiting for chief i turned around and

2423
01:29:31,510 --> 01:29:30,960
said something so salty to him and i

2424
01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:31,520
just

2425
01:29:34,149 --> 01:29:33,040
put one foot in front of the other and i

2426
01:29:37,030 --> 01:29:34,159
think with every foot i was like you're

2427
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:38,550
but that's just you know to me that's

2428
01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:40,880
like like i went into sales for like

2429
01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:42,800
commercial roofing at my last job or

2430
01:29:45,430 --> 01:29:43,920
whatever and i would have been really

2431
01:29:46,229 --> 01:29:45,440
good at it but the latter was the hard

2432
01:29:50,149 --> 01:29:46,239
part

2433
01:29:52,149 --> 01:29:50,159
and you know it is it gets easier

2434
01:29:53,990 --> 01:29:52,159
like everything else you know the more

2435
01:29:55,510 --> 01:29:54,000
you do it

2436
01:29:57,430 --> 01:29:55,520
you just never want it done you're not

2437
01:29:59,590 --> 01:29:57,440
gonna get over it

2438
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:59,600
i'm still scared of heights well you

2439
01:30:01,510 --> 01:30:00,880
know you don't have to deal with

2440
01:30:04,830 --> 01:30:01,520
everything

2441
01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:04,840
you just don't do the heist thing that's

2442
01:30:09,430 --> 01:30:06,480
fine

2443
01:30:11,189 --> 01:30:09,440
all right um i do have a company here

2444
01:30:13,510 --> 01:30:11,199
and some employees i should talk to

2445
01:30:16,709 --> 01:30:13,520
probably

2446
01:30:20,550 --> 01:30:16,719
um yeah it'd be great to

2447
01:30:23,030 --> 01:30:20,560
talk to you again um absolutely not any

2448
01:30:24,470 --> 01:30:23,040
parting anything words of advice

2449
01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:24,480
anything coming up you want to talk

2450
01:30:28,550 --> 01:30:24,800
about

2451
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:31,590
and you can say no too well no i do have

2452
01:30:33,990 --> 01:30:33,440
something to say we're getting ready to

2453
01:30:37,189 --> 01:30:34,000
unveil

2454
01:30:37,910 --> 01:30:37,199
our company to people and if you know me

2455
01:30:39,510 --> 01:30:37,920
you know that i

2456
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:39,520
don't like throwing things out there and

2457
01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:41,440
not following up on them

2458
01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:43,679
um i try not to hype things up and i'm

2459
01:30:48,229 --> 01:30:45,199
not full of it

2460
01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:48,239
um i have a genuine concern that people

2461
01:30:50,229 --> 01:30:49,360
are going to see that we've done a

2462
01:30:52,709 --> 01:30:50,239
really good job

2463
01:30:53,669 --> 01:30:52,719
and that we we we're professionals and

2464
01:30:56,950 --> 01:30:53,679
that they're going to think

2465
01:30:57,750 --> 01:30:56,960
that this is i i really don't like being

2466
01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:57,760
called an op

2467
01:31:01,590 --> 01:30:59,840
really bothers me we've been working our

2468
01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:01,600
ass off for a while now

2469
01:31:05,910 --> 01:31:04,719
and just because we don't look like what

2470
01:31:07,350 --> 01:31:05,920
you were used to and that we were

2471
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:07,360
professionals that have

2472
01:31:13,830 --> 01:31:10,960
have a large acumen of capability

2473
01:31:15,830 --> 01:31:13,840
it i don't know i just want to get ahead

2474
01:31:17,990 --> 01:31:15,840
of that we're here to help people man

2475
01:31:18,709 --> 01:31:18,000
and we are we are completely transparent

2476
01:31:20,550 --> 01:31:18,719
so

2477
01:31:21,990 --> 01:31:20,560
as we move forward i hope people

2478
01:31:23,590 --> 01:31:22,000
understand that that

2479
01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:23,600
that we're trying to open this up for as

2480
01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:25,199
many people as possible

2481
01:31:28,390 --> 01:31:26,880
we're trying to open this conversation

2482
01:31:29,189 --> 01:31:28,400
so if there's anything that i can do to

2483
01:31:32,470 --> 01:31:29,199
open

2484
01:31:34,390 --> 01:31:32,480
the conversation to to unobscure things

2485
01:31:36,070 --> 01:31:34,400
and to help things make sense for people

2486
01:31:37,830 --> 01:31:36,080
that's what i want to do so anytime i

2487
01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:37,840
can come back here and help make

2488
01:31:41,430 --> 01:31:40,400
help reduce harm and help increase

2489
01:31:42,790 --> 01:31:41,440
understanding

2490
01:31:44,629 --> 01:31:42,800
you know i'm gonna be a part of that if

2491
01:31:46,390 --> 01:31:44,639
you want me to yeah

2492
01:31:47,669 --> 01:31:46,400
um i don't know who wouldn't want you to

2493
01:31:49,910 --> 01:31:47,679
be a part of it

2494
01:31:51,669 --> 01:31:49,920
and i've met a lot of people in in

2495
01:31:53,350 --> 01:31:51,679
business i've talked to thousands of

2496
01:31:56,470 --> 01:31:53,360
people on the phone

2497
01:31:59,350 --> 01:31:56,480
um picking up people's vibes and

2498
01:32:00,310 --> 01:31:59,360
figuring out who they are pretty quick i

2499
01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:00,320
can do that

2500
01:32:06,470 --> 01:32:03,520
um and i've been wrong for sure but

2501
01:32:08,870 --> 01:32:06,480
the older i get the more right i am um

2502
01:32:11,590 --> 01:32:08,880
and usually it's my gut

2503
01:32:12,629 --> 01:32:11,600
what i call the sixth sense that tells

2504
01:32:15,110 --> 01:32:12,639
me

2505
01:32:17,110 --> 01:32:15,120
what's real and what isn't and when my

2506
01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:17,120
gut connects with your gut

2507
01:32:24,790 --> 01:32:22,000
that's that shit's real you know um

2508
01:32:26,470 --> 01:32:24,800
trust until proven otherwise you can't

2509
01:32:30,550 --> 01:32:26,480
live your life

2510
01:32:33,510 --> 01:32:30,560
not believing anyone because of fear

2511
01:32:35,270 --> 01:32:33,520
you know take a chance trust trust your

2512
01:32:38,550 --> 01:32:35,280
gut

2513
01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:38,560
and you know what's what's the worst

2514
01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:39,280
that could happen

2515
01:32:44,310 --> 01:32:41,440
life could continue to be what it is or

2516
01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:46,470
i'm really glad you're here sean yeah

2517
01:32:54,470 --> 01:32:49,120
i'm glad you're here sean

2518
01:32:55,669 --> 01:32:54,480
i was talking to myself

2519
01:32:58,149 --> 01:32:55,679
i'm not going to do that until we get

2520
01:33:01,030 --> 01:32:58,159
off camera's off oh good

2521
01:33:02,470 --> 01:33:01,040
all right well um everybody i just

2522
01:33:04,229 --> 01:33:02,480
wanted to uh

2523
01:33:06,550 --> 01:33:04,239
thank you so much for being so

2524
01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:06,560
supportive and joining

2525
01:33:12,790 --> 01:33:10,480
the sean and sean show um you know

2526
01:33:14,229 --> 01:33:12,800
every time you comment or every time i

2527
01:33:17,270 --> 01:33:14,239
see another person

2528
01:33:20,709 --> 01:33:17,280
watching or liking my page or whatever

2529
01:33:22,950 --> 01:33:20,719
it uh pushes me to be

2530
01:33:24,870 --> 01:33:22,960
as compassionate and helpful even more

2531
01:33:27,189 --> 01:33:24,880
so that i can

2532
01:33:29,350 --> 01:33:27,199
because that's what i want to do in

2533
01:33:31,910 --> 01:33:29,360
seeing the results

2534
01:33:33,830 --> 01:33:31,920
from that pushes me to work even harder

2535
01:33:37,910 --> 01:33:33,840
to get bigger results

2536
01:33:39,350 --> 01:33:37,920
so thank you to everybody watching um

2537
01:33:41,189 --> 01:33:39,360
i promise you i'm going to make phone

2538
01:33:42,629 --> 01:33:41,199
calls after this but we went a little

2539
01:33:44,950 --> 01:33:42,639
a little over because some things are

2540
01:33:47,510 --> 01:33:44,960
just more important but

2541
01:33:48,550 --> 01:33:47,520
um so with that being said i will leave

2542
01:33:51,990 --> 01:33:48,560
you guys

2543
01:33:52,229 --> 01:33:52,000
so um yeah thank you very much re-watch